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Vinny Valenti Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 March 2024 at 7:17pm | IP Logged | 1
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"I seem to recall that Alan Davis talking about the style guide and how helpful it was when he first started at DC."
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I could see that. His first work at DC after just 3 years in the biz (and, I believe his first team book, period) was BATMAN AND THE OUTSIDERS.
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Darren Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 April 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 6025
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Posted: 14 March 2024 at 10:53am | IP Logged | 2
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Vinny: Yeah, BATO was the first gig (Although it was very almost Aquaman) I can definitely see the 'model' of JLGL but also Jim Aparo in the linework (Who was likely part of the reference pack)
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Darren Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2024 at 11:04am | IP Logged | 3
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JB: When I started on Superman, Dick Giordano gave me a copy of the style guide. I still have it.
I have no idea how you managed to hold it together, John with the thought of moving to Superman. The pressure must have been enormous. Then add to that the prospect of Dick inking your work...Just holding the pencil straight. I super admire your work ethic, the fun you bring to a project but here, in this instance the maturity to do the work. Amazing. JB: Looking at Jose’s beautiful drawings was almost enough to make me seek honest work—like as a plumber. I think, when it comes Jose's work, that is a natural response. I poorly recall an anecdote that while visiting the DC offices, Mobius saw Jose's work and asked who he used as models, to find out that it was out of his head was remarkable. [As an anecdote this is more 'An' than 'Ekdotos' as I'm second guessing that it wasn't Milo Manara, rather than Jean Giraud]
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Dave Kopperman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 14 March 2024 at 3:08pm | IP Logged | 4
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Comparing Garcia-Lopez and JB is definitely a whole apples/oranges thing. I think of it like Kubrick and John Carpenter - or more specifically, Kubrick's Shining and Carpenter's oeuvre. The former is a master filmmaker bringing all his chops to a genre exercise, while the latter lives inside the genre - so Kubrick's film is beautiful, if somewhat remote, while Carpenter's horror films are so alive they sort of hum.
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Rodrigo castellanos Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 03 July 2012 Location: Uruguay Posts: 1527
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Posted: 18 March 2024 at 4:47am | IP Logged | 5
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I think of it like Kubrick and John Carpenter - or more specifically, Kubrick's Shining and Carpenter's oeuvre.
Interesting analogy, don't know if I agree with it though.
But I do give a very similar answer when asked who is my favorite director: "Officially, it's Kubrick. But, just between you and me, it's Carpenter."
I poorly recall an anecdote that while visiting the DC offices, Mobius saw Jose's work and asked who he used as models, to find out that it was out of his head was remarkable.
Jim Shooter used to tell a similar anecdote with John Buscema. Big John came by the office to pick up some reference for Superman/Spider-Man and was given the Garcia Lopez sheets and he couldn't believe the guy was so good.
And supposedly he never, ever praised other artists (Shooter tried to further impress him with some Neal Adams pages, but wasn't successful).
Truly an artist's artist.
Edited by Rodrigo castellanos on 18 March 2024 at 5:00am
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Darren Taylor Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 22 April 2004 Location: Scotland Posts: 6025
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Posted: 18 March 2024 at 6:52am | IP Logged | 6
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@Rodrigo: Much appreciation dude! That is likely the source my discombobulation. I have definitely conflated two different stories...now I need to figure out the other half, I am missing.
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Eric Jansen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 March 2024 at 10:26am | IP Logged | 7
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I'm reading the old SHOWCASE PRESENTS JONAH HEX, and it's just glorious to see the Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez art--it's probably even more impressive in b&w than the original comics.
But I'd still like to see it in color!
How this has never been reprinted in some prestige edition is beyond me.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 18 March 2024 at 2:57pm | IP Logged | 8
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…it's just glorious to see the Jose Luis Garcia-Lopez art--it's probably even more impressive in b&w than the original comics.But I'd still like to see it in color! ••• sigh
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Fred J Chamberlain Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 March 2024 at 3:25pm | IP Logged | 9
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My understanding that both, the Mobius and Buscema stories occured, having heard some slight differences in the details.
- Mbius asked if Jose used models, was told "non" by Helfer, as which point Mobius exclaimed, "Sonuvabitch".
- Buscema was so taken with Jose's work that he attempted to get Jose to ink his pencils on the Supderman/Spider- Man Treasury book.
Interesting note is that I've spoken to Jose about my love of his original work, over the published colors and he underplayed it, stated that "it was always drawn to be colored". I adore the Jonah Hex stuff, but prefer the Showcase volumes, to the original (or, later, digitally colored) books.
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 March 2024 at 3:56pm | IP Logged | 10
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Man. Big John inked by JLGL? I do believe that would melt my face.
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Charles Valderrama Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 26 March 2024 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | 11
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Wishing a very Happy Birthday to José Luis García-López.
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Joe Smith Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 29 August 2004 Location: United States Posts: 6680
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Posted: 26 March 2024 at 3:40pm | IP Logged | 12
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HBJLGL!! 🎂
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