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         Mark McKay Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:30am | IP Logged | 1
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JB, will we learn why this Jean was becoming intangible?
 
 Also, I am making an assumption that your original pages from Fantastic Four 286 (that were rewritten before publication) still hold true? 
 
 Just doing some sleuthing here. 
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         John Byrne 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:35am | IP Logged | 2
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Careful!  "Sleuthing" = speculation = potential spoilers.
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         Steven Queen Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:40am | IP Logged | 3
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Does the forestry fall into the category of "argle-bargle"?  (Great word!)
  Also, beautiful page today.  Your Cyclops/Scott is the only one that looks right any more, and every glimpse of Jean-as-Phoenix is a visual treat too.  Clean, simple lines, yet so expressive. My eyes soak it up so fast, I almost can't "see it" at first look.
  While not evident today, had you considered that when you "whiten" certain elements post-scan (for effect), you are venturing into the field of digital painting?  Padding your resume? :)
  Edited by Steven Queen on 28 July 2020 at 7:44am
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         John Byrne 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:48am | IP Logged | 4
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Does the forestry fall into the category of "argle-bargle"?  Mostly.  Another instance where I kind of zone out, and when I come back someone has drawn the backgrounds for me. ++++ While not evident today, had you considered that when you "whiten" certain elements post-scan (for effect), you are venturing into the field of digital painting? Padding your resume? :)  Already bin there!  ANGEL - BLOOD AND TRENCHES was a black and white book with color, specifically snow and blood.  And I did that on the scans.
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         Luke Smyth Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:51am | IP Logged | 5
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This year has not been kind to all of us on many levels. Personally Ive  suffered a number of losses that sent me to a very dark place.  I can  honestly say that this series has been a consistent source of relief  throughout it all.
  Heartfelt thanks for doing this and for the constant high quality of  entertainment over 40 plus years. Respect.
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         Mark McKay Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 7:53am | IP Logged | 6
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Careful! "Sleuthing" = speculation = potential spoilers. 
 
  
 
 Fair enough! I'll try to keep it in my own head. 
 
 (Sometimes I can't help myself, especially seeing a page a day). 
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         Richard Stevens Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:02am | IP Logged | 7
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That big shot of Scott with the Phoenix is such a great figure. Scott looks lean, but strong and flexible  the kind of guy who could survive a drop from a massive height with nothing but eye beams to slow him down. 
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         Michael Genitempo Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:02am | IP Logged | 8
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Fair enough! I'll try to keep it in my own head.
  (Sometimes I can't help myself, especially seeing a page a day). >> I feel you Mark.  Very hard to hold back sometimes, especially when I *think* I know where JB is going... And of course, I'm almost always wrong... Damn that Byrne and his twists...
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         John Byrne 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:13am | IP Logged | 9
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..nothing but eye beams... Only in comics could eye beams become a "nothing but"!
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         Steven Queen Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:14am | IP Logged | 10
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Re: ANGEL - BLOOD AND TRENCHES.
  I've been out-of-comics for a long while.  That looks awesome!  In the sneek-peek on Amazon, there's a quality to the art that has in some ways has a very different style.  I wouldn't guess it was yours in many of the panels (others definitively, yes).  More shading perhaps because of a pencils-only format?
  I always treasured your Baron Blood vampire run in Captain America as well.
  Exciting!
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         John Byrne 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:23am | IP Logged | 11
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BLOOD AND TRENCHES was pencils only, but, unlike ELSEWHEN, it was pencils that were not intended to be inked.  So, a whole tonal "experience".(I sometimes wonder if there are A-B&T pages I have sold that have ended up in the tender loving care of someone who felt they would be improved by inking.  And, sadly, I know some inkers who would do it without hesitation.)
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         Steven Queen Byrne Robotics Member 
  
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           | Posted: 28 July 2020 at 8:24am | IP Logged | 12
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I have been trying to resist being a simulationist/RPG/nit-picker...but since y'all brought it up...
  I really liked how Cyclops once used his pulsed optic-blasts to slow down Wolerine's fall at the end of the Proteus saga (perhaps my all-time favorite story-line in the X-men).  That application totally works for me.
  But...if Cyclops' beam "push back at him" via Newton's-Law to slow him down when falling, then aren't they also pushing him horizontally every time he uses them?
 
 Sorry, I've got an engineer's brain that won't shut up. 
  
 
 EDIT:  Maybe that's why he often "leans into them"...
  
  Edited by Steven Queen on 28 July 2020 at 8:28am
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