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Ian Evans
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 1:38pm | IP Logged | 1  

Yeah but Mike was just posting a non sequiteur...he had done with the Suadn point and had just seen an ant milking an aphid...

....anyway.....

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Mike O'Brien
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You're one of the good ones, Ian.
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Ray Brady
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 7:04pm | IP Logged | 3  

I came across a quote today that I quite liked:

"Naming one thing wrong adds to the misery of this world."
Albert Camus

Now I've got to try to figure out where it came from.
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Roger Klorese
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 8:16pm | IP Logged | 4  

 John Byrne wrote:
Okay -- I was wrong. Using a word makes it the correct word. Calling the wheel of a car the "spinny thing" makes "spinny thing" the correct term for describing the wheel of a car. And every racial epithet ever applied to anyone, anywhere, for any reason, is perfectly appropriate. Use makes right.

Thanks for setting me straight on that!


Sarcasm much?

What you seem to be insensitive to, John, is that there are degrees of wrong, and degrees of importance.  There's a big difference between using an incorrect-though-popular term for a technical concept within an industry of whose products one is a consumer -- "balloons" vs. "bubbles" -- and using a term that is meant to demean and insult.

And your argument about how people use the N-word without intending to demean and insult doesn't hold water, John.  The only way those people ever heard that word and had it enter their vocabularies as an acceptable term was by having their vocabularies develop within cultures that universally demean and insult African-Americans, Africans, South Asians, and others for whom the term is used.

Contrast to your industry-facing terminology examples.  No car salesman -- and not even an automotive engineer who has no financial interest in kissing up to me, for that matter -- is going to insult a "civilian" who's interested in automobiles because they called the terms "wheel" and "rim" interchangeably. 

It's a reflection of how inbred and self-important this industry is that you think nit-picking and out-and-out offensiveness are equivalent.

Jaywalking and mass murder are both "wrong."  If you can't tell the difference in proportion between those "wrongs" then I hope you never serve on a jury.

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Matt Reed
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 8:24pm | IP Logged | 5  

I find it infinitely interesting and more than a little sad when people go through the registration process here solely to take offense at something said by John and not to add to the broader community as a whole.
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Roger Klorese
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Gee, I was unaware that I had to earn cred from you in order to post here.  Considering that I've been involved in comics since the late 60s and even did grunt production work on some of John's pages back in 1974-75, I don't really have to prove my merit to you.  When someone I otherwise respect posts something so off-the-mark, I don't think it's out of line to call them out on it, even if I haven't earned posting-bucks in your eyes.
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Matt Reed
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Wow.  Registering and posting only to chastise John and then immediately sarcastic to someone who calls them on it.  Gee, can't wait to see what else you have to offer, Roger.
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Roger Klorese
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 Matt Reed wrote:
Wow.  Registering and posting only to chastise John and then immediately sarcastic to someone who calls them on it.  Gee, can't wait to see what else you have to offer, Roger.

It should be obvious that I don't think there's anything wrong with registering and posting just to chastise John -- so there's nothing for me to be "called on."  I don't have to buy a certain number of issues of the newspaper to write a complaining letter to the editor when something merits it. 

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Matt Reed
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Not even remotely in the same ballpark, but we both know that.
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Roger A Ott II
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 8:49pm | IP Logged | 10  

Well, I was wondering when the "new guys" were finally going to show up and put John in his place.  Actually took a little longer than I expected this time, though.  I gotta give 'em that...
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Matt Hawes
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 Roger Klorese wrote:
...even did grunt production work on some of John's pages back in 1974-75...

What sort of production work, and for which publisher, Marvel or Charlton?

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James Wright
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Posted: 09 May 2005 at 9:00pm | IP Logged | 12  

I'm always curious as to what the perceived gain is from registering "just to chastise John."  What do people get out of it?  I'm not sure the question is even worth asking.
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