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John Byrne
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What term do you prefer to describe the format in which you work? ***** I call them comic books, or comicbooks, because that's the term everyone knows. I have spent much of my professional career in search of a term that would be as user-friendly and more accurately describe the form. Something like "movies", which can be used for "Citizen Kane" or "EuroTrip" without anyone confusing the content of one for the other. Nothing has yet suggested itself.
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John Byrne
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Later, even after adventure strips began for fill as many pages as the humorous ones, the terms "Sunday Funnies" and "Comics" continued, and when Sunday pages were collected in half-tab reprint for, the terms carried over. The first of these reprints, in fact, was titled COMICS CAVALCADE. ++++ Identifying the "first" reprint of Sunday pages is rather tricky (do we start with the Cupples & Leon reprint books?), but early comic-book reprints include 1922's COMICS MONTHLY, 1929's THE FUNNIES, 1933's GULF COMIC WEEKLY (which later changed its name to COMICS FUNNIES WEEKLY), and 1933's FAMOUS FUNNIES (subtitle: "A Carnival of Comics").COMIC CAVALCADE was a comic published by DC (National) in 1942, and it consisted mostly of new material. ***** Brain slippage, probably because I was just looking for the DC Archive edition to send to a friend. The first American comic book, as the term is used today, and discounting promotional material, is generally acknowledged to be FAMOUS FUNNIES, published in the early 1930s. It contained all reprint (and in some cases rereprint) material, with only about a quarter of its content "new" to the format (tho not new to publication). FAMOUS FUNNIES had a seond "first issue" cover dated July 1934, which came about as a result of the publisher of the first first issue being too cautious and pessimistic for those who had conceived the book -- including, of course, Max Gaines, the "Father of the American Comic Book" -- and so usage of the title being reclaimed and recycled.
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Joe Mayer
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Interesting USA Today article.
http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2005-05-03-education al-comics_x.htm
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Jacob P Secrest
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Rob Hewitt wrote:
I had many friends at school who read comics,
though none do now.
However, my brother, 8 years younger, said none of the people in his
school, that he knows of, reads comics, including him.
One of my life's greaqt disappointments :( |
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Some people at my school read comics, though few read American comics
(they mainly read manga), it really is disappointing.
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Jeremy Nichols
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Rob Hewitt wrote:
Jacob P Secrest wrote:
Rob, very
true, but there's no harm in trying, I'm on a mission to get
people at my school to read comics, no success, I have one
friend who already reads Wolverine, that's it. |
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I had many friends at school who read comics, though none
do now.
However, my brother, 8 years younger, said none of the
people in his school, that he knows of, reads comics, including
him.
One of my life's greaqt disappointments :( |
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Same with the kids in school back in my hometown. Here's the
thing, though: they WOULD read comics if they had access to
them. It's a small town… the nearest comic shop is over an hour
away… the nearest mall with even a Waldenbooks that sells
comics is an hour away. My wife's little brother comes over
sometimes and reads some of my comics that are laying out,
and he says stuff like “These are so cool. Where do you get
them?”
He's from a generation where you can't go into the local drug
store, grocery store, etc. and see a rack of comics. One could
say, well, order them online, but seriously, how are kids gonna
“get into” them that way? They almost have to be something
you discover at a young age, something handed down by an
older brother or a friend.
And personally, I'm not as offended by the term “comic books”
alone as I am when it's used in the possessive… “You still
reading 'your' comic books?” or “Hold on a sec, let me get him.
He's reading 'his' comic books.” Not sure why that bugs me, but
it makes me feel like I'm the only person on earth that reads
them… but people who talk to me about the weather bug me,
too...
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Craig Ashforth
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None of the newsagents or bookstores in my town sell comics (other than the Beano or the Dandy) but my local library has a fair selection of trades and graphic novels which are very popular with all ages so if comics were reintroduced to the newsagents or bookstores here they'd probably sell.
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Jeff Siedlik
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Smith and his damned "word bubbles" He is truly JB's ultimate
nemesis!
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Andy Hardy
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Jeremy Nichols wrote:
Rob Hewitt wrote:
Jacob P Secrest wrote:
Rob, very
true, but there's no harm in trying, I'm on a mission to get
people at my school to read comics, no success, I have one
friend who already reads Wolverine, that's it. |
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I had many friends at school who read comics, though none
do now.
However, my brother, 8 years younger, said none of the
people in his school, that he knows of, reads comics, including
him.
One of my life's greaqt disappointments :(
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Same with the kids in school back in my hometown. Here's the
thing, though: they WOULD read comics if they had access to
them. It's a small town… the nearest comic shop is over an hour
away… the nearest mall with even a Waldenbooks that sells
comics is an hour away. My wife's little brother comes over
sometimes and reads some of my comics that are laying out,
and he says stuff like “These are so cool. Where do you get
them?”
He's from a generation where you can't go into the local drug
store, grocery store, etc. and see a rack of comics. One could
say, well, order them online, but seriously, how are kids gonna
“get into” them that way? They almost have to be something
you discover at a young age, something handed down by an
older brother or a friend....
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Earlier tonight, I was carting my four-year old son through the toy section at Wal-Mart. Toward the end of the action-figure aisle, a plastic rack hung that displayed about twenty "3-pack" Marvel comic book collections. Lo and behold! This instance marked the first time I'd seen comic books for sale in my town in over fifteen years!
The packages were $2.97 each, and most of these comics were originally published between '86 and '93*. The two packs I bought contained Amazing Spider-Man 337, Specatular Spider-Man Annual 9, Alpha Flight 44; and Amazing Spider-Man 337, Alpha Flight 39, and Avengers Spotlight 26. Some of the other comics featured included this era's run of Nick Fury (or whatever its title was at the time), Justice, DP7 (!!!), Daredevil, and a few more whose titles I forget.
Has anyone else seen these comic packs displayed at Wal-Mart?
*Again, I said most of the displayed comics were from this era; I did note, however, a Howard the Duck #5....
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Matt Hawes
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Andy Hardy wrote:
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Yep.
I believe these packs are made up of unsold and/or returned newsstand comics that have been stored in some distributor's warehouse for years. Repackaging the comics as three packs is one way to move the old product.
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Andy Hardy
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Matt Hawes wrote:
Andy Hardy wrote:
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Yep.
I believe these packs are made up of unsold and/or returned newsstand comics that have been stored in some distributor's warehouse for years. Repackaging the comics as three packs is one way to move the old product.
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True, though I believe this tecnique to be better than not moving the product (to the mainstream) at all.
P.S. Forget to note--and I don't know how I could have been so remiss--that two more of the comic books displayed were from Mr. Byrne's WCA run.
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Charles Jensen
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I have spent much of my professional career in search of a term that would be as user-friendly and more accurately describe the form. Something like "movies", which can be used for "Citizen Kane" or "EuroTrip" without anyone confusing the content of one for the other. Nothing has yet suggested itself.
Why not make a word up? Maybe we could have a competition on the board. Everyone makes submissions and you be the judge and choose the word or choose your own. I think you have earned the right to give it a shot.
Moving pictures is to "Movies"...
As Sequential art is to "Sequies"...
Or how about art book is to "arties"...
What do they call "comic books" in other countries?
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John McMahon
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Manga :P
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