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Rebecca Jansen
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 1:13pm | IP Logged | 1
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Couldn't this Dr. Conley lose his license to practice medicine for falsified documents and false statements?
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Marc M. Woolman
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 1:31pm | IP Logged | 2
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In addition to Trump
intending to ask his
conservatively-loaded
supreme court to stop
counting mail-in ballots
the day after the election,
Battleground states that
have a republican
controlled legislature
intend to claim election
irregularities and create
their own state electors to
award the state's electoral
college votes to Trump
even if the state was won
by Biden.
Even if Biden's team fights
that in court, it will be
appealed all the way to the
Supreme Court, right? That
Supreme Court will award
the election to Trump no
matter what, that's the
plan.
What a sham-democracy!
Is there any way Biden can
win and become president?
Is there any point to
voting?
Is Biden going to be
another Al Gore, who wins
but never becomes
president?
It's certainly looking like
that.
The countries that have
dictatorships present a
public, false image of
elections and parliaments
that are all fake while the
real leader/dictator like
Putin, stays in power.
Is that what America has
become?
Where the hell are the
legal safeguards built-in
to prevent this from ever
happening?
You only have two political
parties and apparently
your government safeguards
work on the idea that both
parties will always
act honourably and
put country ahead of party,
with no real safeguards in
place to account for a
political party that
doesn't.
A party that always puts
itself ahead of anything
else including country and
democracy, a party loading
up the Supreme court with
judges that are not
centrist, moderate or
unbiased,and will always
side with them.
I saw a piece Friday night
that explained that if the
contested election gets
taken out of the Supreme
Court's hands and thrown
back to Congress to decide,
the decision is made by the
number of states voting,
and Republicans control 26
states in Congress, so how
do you think they will
vote? With the people and
against Trump? Not a
chance.
Edited by Marc M. Woolman on 11 October 2020 at 2:05pm
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Rebecca Jansen
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 1:41pm | IP Logged | 3
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1968: stolen intel on one party, top criminal later gets pardoned
2000: probably stolen via Florida and other states' actions and rulings, war started on deliberate misinformation
2016: stolen with foreign disinformation help, stolen intel again, and collusion with outright propagandist media interests
2020: blatantly pulling out all the stops to steal it again, and rattling of war sabre at middle-eastern nation agreement broken with
Edited by Rebecca Jansen on 11 October 2020 at 1:42pm
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Brian Floyd
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 2:04pm | IP Logged | 4
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It they do what Marc said, then SCOTUS better hope that the Democrats don't take control of both parts of Congress.
Because Supreme Court Justices can be removed from the bench, just like the President can be removed from office. And I'd think that helping rig an election would be a more than justified reason to do so. In fact, it would be borderline treason.
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Marc M. Woolman
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 2:09pm | IP Logged | 5
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Who removes Supreme
Court justices?
Congress, Senate
or the President?
And can a president
veto or block it?
Edited by Marc M. Woolman on 11 October 2020 at 2:10pm
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 2:10pm | IP Logged | 6
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Bloodbath. That’s where this is heading.
A rigged election, votes discounted, a Supreme Court backing a
dictator.
America. Land of the free.
What the hell happened (rhetorical)?
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Marc M. Woolman
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 2:18pm | IP Logged | 7
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I am really looking
for some glimmer
of hope.
I know Americans
would rather protest
and riot after
the fact instead
of voting, but when
republicans are in
power riots and
protests don't stop
them, or change
their minds/actions.
The idea that a
truly stolen election
will lead to riots
and chaos which
will set things right,
is ludicrous.
Edited by Marc M. Woolman on 11 October 2020 at 2:23pm
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Marc Baptiste
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 5:34pm | IP Logged | 8
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The presidential election dispute of 2000 was an abomination - it should NEVER have ended up in the US Supreme Court for the simple reason that the founders enshrined in the Constitution itself the blueprint for exactly HOW to handle disputed elections: they are decided by the House of Representatives!!
This was most intentional, as the House of Representatives (at the time) was the ONLY organ of the United States federal government DIRECTLY elected by the people (Senators were selected by state legislatures) - the idea that the US Supreme Court - the organ of government FURTHEST removed from the people's choosing would be involved in selecting the president was... as I said, a political ABOMINATION.
Marc
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Joe Zhang
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Biden ahead by double digits and people are already mourning his loss. This hysteria, folks.
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Marc Baptiste
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 5:44pm | IP Logged | 10
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I haven't believed in polls since... oh, 2016!!
Marc
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James Woodcock
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 5:51pm | IP Logged | 11
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It’s not hysteria when one side is doing everything they can to pre-empt
not honouring the result if it does not go in his favour.
Point to me anything, Joe, that says if Biden wins, by any margin,
Trump will not contest. Because I can point to a lot that indicates he
will. & he is
A) stacking the courts
B) stoking intimidation
C) stoking violence
So, yeah, not hysteria. But it is being able to read what he’s doing, &
where this is going.
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Rebecca Jansen
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| Posted: 11 October 2020 at 5:57pm | IP Logged | 12
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I hope Biden makes it clear soon that the stacking the courts issue he supposedly 'refuses' to answer is entirely dependent upon the Republicans succeeding at doing that first. That is entirely in their hands. If they do deliberately unbalance the supreme court with extremist choices, then one (and only one of many) of possible re-balancers that might be considered is adding two additional judges to restore the balance that existed up to this administration.
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