I have been nothing but polite, as reasonable as I can be, willing to support my opinions with research and examples and never claim anyone should not be allowed to voice their opinion.  Maybe my research is heavily flawed?  I don't think it is but it's never enough.

People say I need to consider the black perspective and when I offer the many different black perspectives by people who have made it their business to study the topic at hand, I'm told I have to go out and find black people to get their anecdotal experiences.

I don't really see any way to make any progress.  And this is on a non-political board where the consequences are virtually nil.  If this even remotely represents the lack of discourse going on then there really is no hope and there really isn't any point.

What I see are sanctimonious liberals who refuse to tolerate any opinion other than their own.  A deliberate refusal to even hear an opinion that opposes their own.  Downright anger at someone who won't see their truth.

I know, I'm probably wrong for a million reasons but why fight it?  I'm adopting the same set of rules and declaring my way the right way and I'm just going to ignore those who disagree.

I'm beyond frustrated and have been driven to just throw up my hands and give up.  Too many are simply unreasonable as far as I'm concerned.

In the spirit of the times, I suppose it only appropriate to smash and burn the soap box I'm stepping off of.

The problem Andy, is that because you rely on YouTube videos for your talking points, all you are offering are the same tired arguments that many people who are more politically inclined have heard and debunked before. It's tiring. People are frustrated because they've seen it before.

Well, no. You have given as much as you have taken. You went all ad hominem on me for something Peter said. You continually ignore the fact that chain link enclosures are called cages and  have always been called cages, instead blaming that as an invention of the media. Your "research" are just some tired talking points backed by an interpretation of statistics from someone who clearly doesn't understand how statistics work.

Because you do? What you are doing is not considering the black perspective, you are just posting YouTube videos of contrarian voices that happen to be black who conform to your bias. I'm not white. I know that POC are not one big monolith that all have the same perspective. You are not showing me something that I'm not aware of. The point in asking you to listen to the black perspective is to understand the long history of oppression that is fueling the current anger, because you seem to be ignorant of it and keep trying to claim that it is media driven. It's not.

Contrarian voices are interesting, and I'm not saying they aren't worth listening to, but there's also a benefit to being a contrarian voice that can drive one to continue being contrarian. So understand that when someone asks you to listen to black voices, and your response is to throw out someone that people from both the left and right accuse of being an opportunist and someone a recent Ivy League graduate who writes for Quillette and is a member of the Intellectual Dark Web, you are just showing people who have a vested interest in being contrarian and entirely missing the point. We're not playing black perspective Pokemon. You are being asked to see past your privilege.

Again, the issue isn't people willing to hear an opinion. We've heard these opinions. Several times. We've argued these opinions. Several times. Of course people are angry.

Just because Antifa calls itself by that name does not mean that anyone who is anti-fascist has to be aligned with Antifa.

Nor is fascism nazism, because fascism is a broader category than nazism. The Nazis were fascists, but not all fascists are Nazis.

But then again, some Trumpets may co-op the phrase for Dear Leader.