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Eric Sofer Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 31 January 2014 Location: United States Posts: 4789
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Posted: 10 March 2020 at 10:19am | IP Logged | 1
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Eric L. - I doubt that the U.S. can even convert a hotel to an illness monitor center in three days, although I'm sure it's easier...
Edited by Eric Sofer on 10 March 2020 at 1:43pm
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Peter Hicks Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 30 April 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 2047
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Posted: 10 March 2020 at 1:18pm | IP Logged | 2
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"I wonder if the US can build hospitals in three days?" ****************************************************** Not just any hospitals. These will be the best hospitals. The greatest ever let me tell you. With beautiful restaurants and beautiful casinos in the lobby. Steak dinners every night for the patients. With ketchup. Adjoining golf course for the staff.
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Kevin Brown Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 31 May 2005 Location: United States Posts: 9147
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Posted: 10 March 2020 at 2:18pm | IP Logged | 3
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There is currently no vaccine for COVID-19 or developed treatment for its symptoms. THAT IS A FACT.
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Well, sort of a fact.
They're currently using a variety HIV, ebola, and arthritis drugs to combat COVID-19. Supposedly those with severe lung damage seem to responding well to a rheumatoid arthritis drug. So there is a developed treatment for it, it's unclear how effective it is though.
By the way, the new official name appears to be SARS-CoV-2. So if it's anything like SARS, by the time summer is over, the disease will be pretty much done. There have no cases of SARS since 2004.
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Rick Senger Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 9753
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Posted: 10 March 2020 at 3:02pm | IP Logged | 4
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So if it's anything like SARS, by the time summer is over, the disease will be pretty much done. ***** In critical ways it's not like SARS. For one thing, SARS was determined not to be infectious until after symptoms presented in patients, making detection and containment a much more plausible task. Coronavirus appears to be transmittable before someone has any symptoms, making proper early detection not only problematic but unlikely barring countries like the US spending a helluva lot more money on testing than they're gonna spend. We will get through this but I wouldn't count on it being gone by summer. Even if we come up with a great vaccine next week, testing and proving it then ramping up production likely puts it a year to 18 months in the future for widespread use. Sars V. Coronavirus
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 14912
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Posted: 10 March 2020 at 3:06pm | IP Logged | 5
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They're currently using a variety HIV, ebola, and arthritis drugs to combat COVID-19. Supposedly those with severe lung damage seem to responding well to a rheumatoid arthritis drug. So there is a developed treatment for it, it's unclear how effective it is though.
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There’s a reason why I said “developed treatment” instead of just “treatment.” Drugs for HIV, Ebola, and arthritis are not drugs developed for COVID-19.
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 17 March 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 16218
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Posted: 11 March 2020 at 6:23pm | IP Logged | 6
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Dr Anthony Fauci, the director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases (who has served under six presidents), today testified before Congress and had had a few things to say about COVID-19, caused by the novel coronavirus (SARS-CoV-2). Some, I think, were already apparent to sensible people. Some less so.
- Likely estimate for a vaccine is 18 months
- The worst of the virus is still to come
- Regarding things getting better come April or May, he said, "We do not know what this virus is going to do. We would hope that as we get to warmer weather it would go down, but we can't proceed under that assumption. We've got to assume that it's going to get worse and worse and worse."
Perhaps most interesting of all:
"SARS was also a coronavirus in 2002. It infected 8,000 people, and it killed about 775. It had a mortality of about 9 to 10%. That's only 8,000 people in about a year. In the two and a half months that we've had this coronavirus, as you know we now have multiple multiples of that. So it clearly is not as lethal. And I'll get to the lethality in a moment, but it certainly spreads better. Probably for the practical understanding of the American people, the seasonal flu we deal with every year has a mortality of 0.1%. The stated mortality overall of this when you look at all the data, including China, is about 3%, it first started off as 2 and now 3. I think if you count all the cases of minimally symptomatic or asymptomatic, that probably brings the mortality down to around 1%. Which means this is ten times more lethal than the seasonal flu."
So there you have it, for all those comparing this to the seasonal flu. Amazingly, a virus that first came to the US in January hasn't yet had the impact of the endemic flu. But, unsurprisingly, it is false equivalence to compare the annual death rate of the flu to a virus that no one had in the country three months ago.
Edited by Peter Martin on 11 March 2020 at 6:54pm
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Peter Martin Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 11 March 2020 at 6:30pm | IP Logged | 7
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Oh, and he also said he'd already told this to the president and the vice president.
.. and then the president has said a vaccine will be available soon and that 'A lot of people think that goes away in April with the heat.'.
And downplayed the numbers in comparison to the annual 'flu figures.
When it comes to Trump and the coronavirus, it makes me think of a line by Shakespeare: "Canst thou, when thou command'st the beggar's knee, command the health of it?"
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Dave Kopperman Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 27 December 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3847
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Posted: 12 March 2020 at 9:37am | IP Logged | 8
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Where's Buchanan? It'd be grimly entertaining to see him come on here and mount a defense of Trump during all of this.
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 March 2009 Location: United States Posts: 2230
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Posted: 12 March 2020 at 5:06pm | IP Logged | 9
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.....and now the shiny object to distract us......
How low can 45 go?
We now see how he's handling a real crisis. Pretty much like his bankrupt businesses.
EDIT: 45 has to find a way to blame the black man who wears a tan suit. He's always the cause of our problems.
Edited by James Johnson on 12 March 2020 at 6:06pm
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 8233
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Posted: 12 March 2020 at 6:10pm | IP Logged | 10
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What’s the article say James? I can’t get to it without accepting all the GDPR stuff that I can usually opt out of.
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 12 March 2020 at 6:15pm | IP Logged | 11
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"U.S. launches strikes in Iraq against Iranian-backed militias after attack that killed coalition troops
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James Johnson Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 16 March 2020 at 7:58am | IP Logged | 12
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I watched Last Week Tonight. The stuff that COVID-45 spewed out of his mouth last week was (and I'm not making light of our situation) HILARIOUS!😅
I guess "Tony" is the new "Brownie "!
Hollywood couldn't write stuff this good.
....and the brown guy in the tan suit was a problem...... 🤔
The MAGA folks need to take a LONG look in the mirror.
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