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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 8:49pm | IP Logged | 1
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the events they list happened. They are not making things up.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 8:54pm | IP Logged | 2
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But the light in which they frame them as "positive" is absolutely made up. The Gateway Pundit and Magapill are blogs. Plain and simple. The Hill is just a step up, a slight step up. That you have to use blogs to tout the accomplishments of a President says more about you and the President you find unassailable than any of his detractors.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 8:57pm | IP Logged | 3
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I'm sure they are listed elsewhere individually as they happened, these are just more convenient.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 9:04pm | IP Logged | 4
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Of course they're "convenient". They're what people like you use all the time to attack the truth.
Blogs.
Bullshit op-eds and opinion pieces written as fact.
Whatever, Thomas. You could have used any of a number of sources to substantiate your truth if they were out there, but instead had to resort to blog posts written by propaganda artists to defend your position. Opinion pieces rather than fact. Ah well. Keep on keeping on.
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 9:09pm | IP Logged | 5
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Well if I have the energy tomorrow I will try to get some other sources. I’m on pain meds and half asleep these days
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Koroush Ghazi Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 October 2009 Location: Australia Posts: 1681
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 9:53pm | IP Logged | 6
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In the meanwhile, for a pleasant change of pace, let's try some verifiable facts from a Pulitzer Prize-winning source:
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/trumpomete r/
How does that compare to the Kenyan-born Socialist Muslim President who wrecked America? Let's see:
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/
Now I'm no expert, but I think we can clearly conclude some things from the data above:
- Obama had it much easier than Trump, inheriting a booming economy, after George W. Bush's sterling efforts;
- Obama didn't face an obstructionist Senate or House;
- Obama was not the most unfairly treated President in the history of the Universe;
- Despite all he achieved, Obama never managed to get North Korea to denuclearize the way Trump did
- So far, Trump has carried out all of his key promises, such as repealing and replacing Obamacare with a much better alternative; building a wall and getting Mexico to pay for it; locking up Hillary for her hideous crimes against humanity; he's virtually eliminated national debt, well on the way to being in surplus at the end of his eight years in office.
Have I missed anything?
Edited by Koroush Ghazi on 08 February 2019 at 10:00pm
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Steve De Young Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 10:06pm | IP Logged | 7
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Obama was as center-right as they come. In the 80’s he would have been a moderate Republican. I know you were being facetious, but this whole two party narrative isn’t relevant to anything. I care about how bad Trump is. I don’t care if he’s better or worse than [insert Democrat].
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Jozef Brandt Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 11:41pm | IP Logged | 8
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Obama center-right? What are you considering center? Full blown communism?
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 08 February 2019 at 11:58pm | IP Logged | 9
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Seriously? Jesus. Next you'll be saying/espousing that Obama wanted ::gasp!:: socialism!!
Obama was not far left. Far from it. He was further left than the Clintons who, in point of fact, were extreme moderate Democrats bordering on far left Republicans. They were moderate in every sense of the word. Obama was not progressive unless your only point of progressivism was that he is a person of color.
I love me some Obama, but to claim that he was just short of full blown socialism (which is what you're implying) is a bunch of bullshit.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 1:32am | IP Logged | 10
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I think Trump needs to get credit for reshaping the federal judiciary. I mean, I don't like many of his choices and I think they'll damage the country in years to come, but in terms of tangible accomplishments his supporters can point to, it's a definite win.
As far as his other "accomplishments", they are mostly taking credit for economic growth that just followed the trends under Obama, signing executive orders that mark intent but don't actually do anything, and lots of deregulation that benefit corporations at the expense of individual citizens.
I guess fucking over transgendered troops and DACA recipients counts as accomplishments?
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Thomas Woods Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 2:28am | IP Logged | 11
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Clinton and Obama started talking a lot like full blown globalists, which is really bad in any Trump supporters mind. Trump stopping her from doing anything in that direction is a huge plus, and along with that there has been resistance breaking out across the world to the open boarders madness.
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Eric Ladd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 09 February 2019 at 5:12am | IP Logged | 12
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His crowning achievement is pulling out of the INF treaty. That move alone is proof he is working for Puttin.
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