Posted: 19 July 2018 at 12:30pm | IP Logged | 3
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Matt, I read your responses , and they basically come down to - Yeah. Trump did this and that. But so what. And you missed the entire point I was making. You wanted Trump to yell at Putin? Who cares. Had he done that then he’d have been blamed for bringing the US to the brink of war with Russia. Words mean NOTHING! You remember Obama’s infamous Syrian Red line threat over the use of chemical weapons? They used them. And used them again. Once again just words and no action. It took Trump to actually take the action Obama threatened. Again, words mean nothing. Were you threatened when Obama whispered to Russian President Dmitri Medvedev he would have more flexibility to negotiate on issues like missile defense after the 2012 election? It got attention, but nothing near this. How would that have been interpreted coming from Trumps mouth? But I’m sure you were critical of Obama too….;o/
You mention that the weapons sold to Ukraine were “defensive” weapons. What’s that? Care to describe what a ”defensive weapon” is? In all the anti-gun talk on this site I don’t recall ever hearing the term “defensive weapon” used before to downplay a weapon. And since I doubt that the Ukraine intends to invade Russia, I’ll go out on a limb and suggest they probably won’t mount an offensive attack on Russia with these weapons. Is that you’re definition of whether a weapon is offensive or defensive? Based on intent? But however you define them, they still couldn’t get them from Obama,only Trump. And when they did Putin was none too happy. But they’re only $47 Billion dollars worth (not including the sale of sniper rifles). $47 BILLION...Whoopee….
And you brushed over the closure on consulates in Seattle and San Francisco….Whoopee I guess.
Casualties in military terms means death or severe or disabling injuries. 500 Russians! 200+ of them Dead!……Whoopee….
Regarding Merkel, he took her to task for having the US paying 3.4% of it’s GDP to NATO while Germany pays 1.2%, all the while buying Russian gas and adding to Putins power and wealth, when they could be buying it from the US(or at least other non- Soviet nations who we’re supposed to be protecting them from). But again your reply to that is that Trump didn’t call out Putin to his face enough for you….I’m not following that corollary or “logic”.
As to the pipelines, I was talking entirely of their impact directly on Russia and Putin. You argue about their crossing of tribal lands. Once again NO WHERE NEAR the point.
Finally someone else posts some pictures of some Russian tchotchkes from a low end russian dollar store of Trump and Putin. As if this is supposed to show anything!? LOL. I also find it a bit unusual that they're selling flags with the writing in ENGLISH and not Russian.Yeah, that makes a lot of sense to sell to the Russian market. Share away with the pictures, just don’t think too hard about it.
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