| Author |
|
Rich Marzullo
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 13 January 2011
Location: United States
Posts: 2730
|
| Posted: 21 August 2016 at 3:56pm | IP Logged | 1
|
|
|
I mean, I'm sure I didn't look like a guy who could fork over $20,000 right then and there (or, y'know, ever).
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
e-mail
|
| |
Fred J Chamberlain
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 August 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 4036
|
| Posted: 21 August 2016 at 4:11pm | IP Logged | 2
|
|
|
It's really a no-win with sellers with this mentality. I certainly don't want
to be viewed as a mark that can throw away the money and would
rather be underestimated and left to make my own choice.
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
e-mail
|
| |
John Byrne
Grumpy Old Guy
Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 133316
|
| Posted: 21 August 2016 at 4:37pm | IP Logged | 3
|
|
|
It's the old attitude -- "If you have to ask, you can't afford it."I happen to live at the other end of that spectrum. In 99% percent of the situations I encounter, I can make my purchase without asking the price. But I still ask. I want to know if I AGREE with the price!
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
Fred J Chamberlain
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 August 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 4036
|
| Posted: 21 August 2016 at 4:51pm | IP Logged | 4
|
|
|
Of course. Regardless of what you have, it is careless not to.
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
e-mail
|
| |
marios ksidonas
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2015
Location: Greece
Posts: 106
|
| Posted: 22 August 2016 at 5:46am | IP Logged | 5
|
|
|
@Rich Marzullo
20k??????
give me a reason why not give this amount to Jim starlin himself to draw me a ten page story .Thanks god he is Alive Well and he can accomplish it!
The same applies to any living legend!(that includes you MR JB)
p.s. Having also in mind that from that page the actual creators will receive NOTHING!Now they will make a reasonable profit which they REALLY DESERVE!
Edited by marios ksidonas on 22 August 2016 at 5:54am
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
| www
e-mail
|
| |
John Byrne
Grumpy Old Guy
Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 133316
|
| Posted: 22 August 2016 at 7:49am | IP Logged | 6
|
|
|
20k??????give me a reason why not give this amount to Jim starlin himself to draw me a ten page story •• This is what Roger Stern said, many moons ago, when a copy of MARVEL COMICS #1 sold at auction for $20G. "For that," he said, "you could get Stan Lee and John Buscema to create a whole comic for you!!"
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
Kevin Brown
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 31 May 2005
Location: United States
Posts: 8947
|
| Posted: 22 August 2016 at 9:01am | IP Logged | 7
|
|
|
If I was to spend $20K on a piece of artwork, I'd rather pay the artist directly instead of an "art dealer who rolls their eyes".
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
Andrew Bitner
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 June 2004
Location: United States
Posts: 7526
|
| Posted: 22 August 2016 at 9:59am | IP Logged | 8
|
|
|
I'd bet you a healthy sum Jim Warden hasn't rolled his eyes during a transaction. He's always been terrific with me, and I'm pretty far from a big $$$ collector.
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
Fred J Chamberlain
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 30 August 2006
Location: United States
Posts: 4036
|
| Posted: 22 August 2016 at 10:03am | IP Logged | 9
|
|
|
I've little doubt that Jim could resist a few eye rolls
with me, but he is professional enough to do it over the
phone or via email and so it goes unnoticed. THAT'S the
key.
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
e-mail
|
| |
John Byrne
Grumpy Old Guy
Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 133316
|
| Posted: 22 August 2016 at 10:07am | IP Logged | 10
|
|
|
If I was to spend $20K on a piece of artwork, I'd rather pay the artist directly instead of an "art dealer who rolls their eyes".••• Bringing up once again the eternal question Why not BOTH?" Why shouldn't artists receive a portion of all future sales and resales?
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
marios ksidonas
Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 25 March 2015
Location: Greece
Posts: 106
|
| Posted: 22 August 2016 at 10:37am | IP Logged | 11
|
|
|
In this point the comic book industry is far behind from the place it should be...
There has to be a law to ensure all this things you mention,Laws that in the movie and music industry already excist!Thats why many actors and singers (and book writers) have a lot of incomes by royalties in all aspects!
The only known royalties that are known for the people who work in the comic book field are from repritings ...and we are talking about pennies...right?Why is this not changing????In the past a big fight was won about the return of the original art to their creators.And since then ...nothing else happened!
But the industry is making a lot by publishing the issue...the tpb...the essential ...the omnibus ... the best of ...and so on and so on...making a lot of money!!!
this should change ...and the change should be applied on the selling of the original art too!And that could be accomplished only by well established laws.
Now that i mentioned about reprints...makes me think how easy it is to publish a comic book by hiring.....noone!!!not a writer,penciller,inker,colorist,,,...noone!And still publish books out of thin ...air!And i mention this cause every new generation that reads all you have done in 80s or 90s etc is a new customer group !Giving them comics to read that the only expense to the companies is....paper and distribution!Nothing else!!!Pretty clever!!!!Pretty.....
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
| www
e-mail
|
| |
John Byrne
Grumpy Old Guy
Joined: 11 May 2005
Posts: 133316
|
| Posted: 22 August 2016 at 11:04am | IP Logged | 12
|
|
|
Whenever it is suggested that the original artists should receive a portion of resales there are inevitably art dealers who will cry that this would cause them to "lose money."Aside from being a mangling of the English language, this is bad math. If a dealer buys a piece of art for $100 and sells it later for $150, having to give 10% to the artist would still leave the dealer with a $35 profit. No loss. (It would be assumed that if there is no profit -- if the dealer sells that $100 page for $99 -- there would be no payment to the artist.) and dealers would, of course, adjust their prices upward to cover their "loss." I find it most depressing that there is any resitance to this idea. I've even heard some say that the artists got their page rate, and that's all they're "entitled" to. So the creator of the artwork gets nothing, while those who had no part in that creation continue to claim higher and higher profits. Dave Cockrum died in poverty, while pages he'd sold for $150 were auctioned for a hundred time that much. Some would say that's fair. Fortunately, not all dealers think that way.
|
| Back to Top |
profile
| search
|
| |
Topic Closed)
