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Jacob P Secrest
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 Rob Hewitt wrote:

[QUOTE=Jacob P Secrest](Most) Democrats are
good with money, (most) Republicans are bad with money (especially our
current Prez), plain and simple. QUOTE]


There is a higher percentage of filings of bankruptcy in big cities, and
most of these care chapter 7s.  Most people in big cities are Democrats.


So the facts suggest you are just... wrong abiout this.


I doubt very much that there is a correlation between income and
politics, but if there is, with the so-called "Big Business" GOP, I bet I know
which way it goes.


That's because living in the big city is expensive, try taking a conservative
from a speck town and throwing them in the big city, they'd get bankrupt
instantly.

And my connection between politics and money is on a federal level,
Republican presidents just spend more of it, I don't know how, they just
do.
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 Jacob P Secrest wrote:
Michael Moore hates politics,

he never wants to hold office,

he is against any movement to get him there.



There's a world of difference in "not wanting to run for public office"
and "hating politics". From where I'm standing, it looks like Michael
Moore loves politics. Second only to making money and maybe
cheeseburgers.

WO
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 Eric Kleefeld wrote:
It's not just your surname, Ed.  It's your full
name.  Maybe if you went by Eddie it wouldn't be as severe.

Awwwww, that's crude.
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Jacob P Secrest
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 Wayne Osborne wrote:
 Jacob P Secrest wrote:
Michael Moore hates
politics,

he never wants to hold office,

he is against any movement to get him there.



There's a world of difference in "not wanting to run for public office"
and "hating politics". From where I'm standing, it looks like Michael
Moore loves politics. Second only to making money and maybe
cheeseburgers.

WO

You're right, Michael Moore loves politics.

Though he'd never want to be in office.
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Take heart, Ed.  I know a guy who is gay, Catholic, very liberal and pro-life.  He wants to go into politics, last I heard.  They won't know what to make of him.
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Jacob,

Sorry man, I did not mean to slaughter your post the way I did, It was an accident.  I just was trying to leave the parts I was commenting on... so again Sorry.

But, regarding Reagan, I think it is interesting how things like the Fall of the USSR just "happened" as a result to Reagan.  Like the Reagan era just "happened" to be the period of the greatest peace time economic growth in history.

By that logic, I would think that history will show that G.W. Bush's presidency, just "happened" to be the period when democracys became popular all around the world

 

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Jacob P Secrest
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 Rob Hewitt wrote:

Reagan I believe put the kibosh on the Soviet
Union.  Obviously, he had help along the way.  But he predicted it, fought
for it, and lo and behold it happened.  He deserves credit, although other
Presidents do as well. (Well, except Jimmy Carter).


Record Surplus-most of that was actually an estimated surplus, the
economy was falling down at the end of Clinton's term,a dn was
artificially infalted by anm internet/tech boom that was doomed to fail
eventually.


Plus, you know, he wasn't fighjting any wars, though, in retrospect, he
obviously should have been doing something.


Why except Jimmy Carter?

What wars?

Why did Bush go to war against Irag?

It sure as hell wasn't "liberation" as he's claiming now.
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Mike, did you read the thread about politics and comics before you started this one?
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 Jacob P Secrest wrote:

Reagan did not end the cold war! He was just in office when it
happened, that's it.


I'm in disagreement with everything Reagan stood for, but I think his
strategy for dealing with the Soviet Bloc (bankrupting them with runaway
military spending) pretty much did the job. And it was sure as hell a job
that needed doing.

It's the failure to see beyond that - that a failed nation with a massive and
unprotected nuclear arsenal would break into many warring and cash-
hungry smaller states would result - that I've always thought of as more
illuminating of Reagan's legacy. Big time military problem-solving, the
Republicans (well, the Wolfowitz-style necocons) seem to grasp. It's in
the detail work and mopping up that things go haywire.
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The problem for me is not the spending per se, it's that not enough is cut to balance the increased spending in the other area.

The government is also very wasteful.  I wish it could be audited top to bottom

I have to drop out guys. I don't hqave the passion left after the long election, previous discussions on this board, and e-mails to friends.

I'm pooped on the political talk.

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 Rob Hewitt wrote:

It was fun, though the day after Election day walking around Brooklyn, big smile on my face, while the people I saw and talked to looked like someone had shot their moms.



Imagine if you were a Red Sox fan and a conservative republican from Boston.  Talk about hitting the lotto!

I wonder, how many conservatives/republicans there are on this board.  I can count 2 or 3 who are always playing the pinata in these discussions.  (gladly I might add).

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I find two things incredibly interesting and humorous: 1) Googling for the news story on the Playgirl firing, I can't find anything from a source that doesn't have a Right-Wing bias, and 2) conservative Republicans are holding up the the firing of a woman that worked for a porn rag as an insult to their party.
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