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Doug Centers Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 July 2014 at 8:58am | IP Logged | 1
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Yes, kudos to you. I must admit I was one of those who thought she was the weakest link back when I started reading in the seventies. Of course that was how she was written also, but I kick myself for not seeing her potential like you did.
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Jason Scott Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 July 2014 at 11:31am | IP Logged | 2
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I LOVE how Joyous everyone looks in this pic. That's Marvel's first family all right..
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Eric Ladd Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 July 2014 at 1:03pm | IP Logged | 3
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Sue was definitely the most underestimated member of the team by villains and fans alike. It must be quite a feather in your cap JB to recognize something that literally nobody else recognized. Sue's current place in comics is owed directly to your writing. And if memory serves the Sentinels also owe their threat potential to you. Are there any other characters out there that JB handled that had similar light shined on them?
*edited for spelling
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Joe Hollon Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 July 2014 at 1:07pm | IP Logged | 4
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Are there any other characters out there that JB handled that had similar light shined on them?
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Probably that one Canadian guy that fought the Hulk. What was his name again...?
Edited by Joe Hollon on 15 July 2014 at 1:07pm
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John Byrne
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Posted: 15 July 2014 at 1:11pm | IP Logged | 5
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ed. Sue's current place in comics is owed directly to your writing. And if memory serves the Sentinels also owe their threat potential to you. ••• I'd give that one to Neal and Roy!
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Greg Kirkman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 July 2014 at 3:32pm | IP Logged | 6
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One of the most gratifying experiences of my time on FANTASTIC FOUR was seeing the shift in fan perception, from Sue as the useless member of the team, to her as perhaps the most powerful! And what's significant, I think, is that I accomplished this without any radical changes to the character. Didn't have to give her an extra dose of cosmic rays (a la Phoenix), or put her thru some kind of mental trauma (a la Guy Gardner). Just applied her established powers logically. ++++++++
Throughout Lee and Kirby's run, there are certainly moments where Sue's strength of both personality and powers shine through. So, this really was a case of taking what was already hinted at and following through.
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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 July 2014 at 8:00pm | IP Logged | 7
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OMG!!!
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Flavio Sapha Byrne Robotics Member
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So, I guess Mr ______ and I have very similar tastes! :D
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Jeffrey Rice Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 July 2014 at 8:41pm | IP Logged | 9
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I am happy that Sue's change in stature has endured. Not flashy, but really a power to be reckoned with.
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Eric Russ Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 15 July 2014 at 11:49pm | IP Logged | 10
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Love it!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 16 July 2014 at 5:45am | IP Logged | 11
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One of the most gratifying experiences of my time on FANTASTIC FOUR was seeing the shift in fan perception, from Sue as the useless member of the team, to her as perhaps the most powerful!And what's significant, I think, is that I accomplished this without any radical changes to the character. Didn't have to give her an extra dose of cosmic rays (a la Phoenix), or put her thru some kind of mental trauma (a la Guy Gardner). Just applied her established powers logically.++++++++ Throughout Lee and Kirby's run, there are certainly moments where Sue's strength of both personality and powers shine through. So, this really was a case of taking what was already hinted at and following through. •• Pretty much everything I did on FF was built on things Lee and Kirby had done (and very little that had come after). The approach was simple, How can I expand on this? Unfortunately, today the common attitude is more like How can I tear this down?
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Lars Sandmark Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 16 July 2014 at 9:07am | IP Logged | 12
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This is the John Byrne commission I would want to own. Perfect shot of the FF!
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