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Brian Hague
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There's currently a line of DC statues in which the characters are grotesquely mis-shapen and wearing bizarre, overdone costumes covered in clunky gizmos and lightning bolts everywhere... I was in a comic store I rarely visit examining these in the showcase and mentioned to the guy behind the counter that it looked as if someone felt the Total Justice line just didn't go far enough with it's "Fractal Armor." He chuckled and agreed. Then I smiled and said that's why I came in there that day. Because I needed to be somewhere where I could say things like "Fractal Armor" and people would know what I was talking about. Then we joked about the relative sales appeal of Watto and Ric Olie. :-)
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Stephen Churay
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Hey, it only takes one viewing of The Phantom Menace to know that
Ric Olie was the shining star of that film. I routinely have his figure
tease my Jake Loyd Anakin figure by holding his "laser sword" high
over his head.
SO much play value.
I think this thread has gone beyond drifted.
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Robert White
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| Posted: 03 June 2014 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | 3
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| These arguments come up a lot on toy collecting boards, and the toy companies would disagree with you. As much as adult collectors make fun of rainbow Batmen and the 50th version of Snake Eyes or Optimus Prime, those are the figures that sell well in general retail. Those supporting characters only appeal to the adult collectors, and they are a niche part of the market. Hasbro and Mattel did attempt to cater to that market, and those attempts failed. So it's back to the Rainbow Batmen. |
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I can only speak for myself, but as a kid, I despised stuff like cameo Batman. I was a huge fan of action figures and had zero interest in any Batman/Superman/Spider-Man variant figures that weren't like the comics or cartoons; all I wanted were the classic costumes.
I've long suspected that a big chunk of those variant sales has to do with unwitting parents buying their kids figures that they think they would like.
Edited by Robert White on 03 June 2014 at 11:05pm
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Michael Roberts
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| Posted: 03 June 2014 at 11:34pm | IP Logged | 4
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Whatever the reason, those are the figures that sell and the retailers are asking the toy manufactures to make more Batmen. I think they are mostly one-off, impulse purchases. With 3.75" figures costing $10-12 and 6" figures costing $20+, most kids aren't trying to get complete collections of figures. They are spending that money on video games.
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To kind of tie things back to Marvel business practices, if Mattel stopped making rainbow Batmen and focused on making Commissioner Gordon and Harvey Bullock figures, they'd be doing what the comic industry had done, chasing an aging niche fanbase, instead of making more kid-friendly product that are impulse buys. And I say that as someone who does want a Harvey Bullock figure.
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Tim O Neill
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Michael R: "I believe Fox would get a cut of any merchandise based on the movie designs. Sony sold all merchandise rights for Spider-Man back to Disney a few years ago, so the only money they see are from the movie tickets and DVD sales."
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Licensing could possibly be playing into this. Didn't Fox announce a cast for FANTASTIC FOUR that looks nothing like the print version? Is that an attempt to create their own look that would require a shift in how the characters are depicted in toys, and licensing in general? That would benefit their interpretation, and Marvel would not be happy that the toys aren't in line with Disney's attempt to have synergy with its properties.
I like to think Marvel had a house style back in the day for the integrity of the characters, but it was probably just good business. If the characters looked the same in the books, it would support the toys on the shelf.
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Michael Roberts
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Is that an attempt to create their own look that would require a shift in how the characters are depicted in toys, and licensing in general? That would benefit their interpretation, and Marvel would not be happy that the toys aren't in line with Disney's attempt to have synergy with its properties.
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I don't think they care whether the Fox versions dilute the Marvel ones. It's about reducing the amount of money that Fox makes off of X-Men and FF, so that they'll let go of the properties.
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Mark Haslett
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Tim: I like to think Marvel had a house style back in the day
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Really? Or do you mean that Marvel kept their characters "on-model"?
The myth of a Marvel "house style" seems to live on in some quarters, but say it ain't here, Tim!
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Brad Krawchuk
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Josh Trank, the director of the upcoming FF, has been announced as one of the directors of a Star Wars spin-off movie (the ones released in-between the next trilogy).
Disney trying to pull Trank away from Fox to stop the FF movie from happening? Hope so!
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Bill Collins
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Regarding Trank on Star Wars,maybe Han and Leia`s offspring will be African American?
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Marc Foxx
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There's an Africa and an America in the STAR WARS universe?
Man, I'm more out of the loop than I thought I was!
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Bill Collins
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No Marc, I think it's the midi-chlorians may cause spontaneous stunt casting, in the new FF I think it was caused by cosmuc rays!
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Ronald Joseph
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midi-chlorians
Probably one of the most cringe-inducing words I've ever heard.
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