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Brad Brickley
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I'd love to get that Manhunter, but it's NYCC only. Will this be available to the other 99.99999% of people on earth not at the con?
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John Byrne
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Walt SImonson and I were yesterday discussing the Steranko volume, Walt marveling (no pun) at the fact that this was a monthly book!Inspiring me to once again reference Todd McFarlane's infamous quote about how "anybody can crap out a book" on a monthly basis, but he and his little Image pals were "growing roses." The only thing sadder than that sad, sad comment is the number of idiots who bought into it. If they do nothing else, the IDW Artist's Editions may serve to educate those benighted fools.
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Jeff Siedlik
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Some of the books feature variants which come out at conventions before the regular cover is released.
I got the Marvel Covers and dug it. It had a nice mix of my favorites (Byrne, Miller, Art Adams) as well as artists I'd never paid attention to before (Ploog, Colan, early Gil Kane). I hope there's a second version with Neal Adams, McFarlane (I know, I know) and others left out of this one.
As far as the selections go: the can only publish what they've got. These originals are often scattered to the four corners of the planet, or stuck in expensive frames and not easily scanned.
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Andrew W. Farago
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The covers included are all modern-sized, too, so that eliminated a lot of classic Silver Age material right off the bat.
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Stephen Churay
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The covers included are all modern-sized, too, so that eliminated a lot
of classic Silver Age material right off the bat.
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Not necessarily. The Steranko NICK FURY AE was about half and
half. The first half is twice up the rest standard 11" x 17".
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Jeff Siedlik
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Yes, but they had to print the whole Steranko book twice up. This Marvel Covers book is their standard AE sized volume.
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Stephen Churay
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Yes, but they had to print the whole Steranko book twice up. This
Marvel Covers book is their standard AE sized volume.
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Of course. My point was that there was precedent for a book to
contain both. To do a book that contained twice up Silver Age covers
and one with modern sizing, they'd just have to make the whole book
twice up. But, it could be done.
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Stephen Churay
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Walt SImonson and I were yesterday discussing the Steranko volume,
Walt marveling (no pun) at the fact that this was a monthly book!
Inspiring me to once again reference Todd McFarlane's infamous
quote about how "anybody can crap out a book" on a monthly basis,
but he and his little Image pals were "growing roses."
The only thing sadder than that sad, sad comment is the number of
idiots who bought into it. If they do nothing else, the IDW Artist's
Editions may serve to educate those benighted fools.
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It used to take me 20-30 minutes to read a comic. Thanks to the
Image folks who grew roses creating pretty pictures but with little
storytelling, they shortened the experience down to about ten minutes.
A particular Jim Lee book from the time had so little substance, I
actual read it, not glanced, read it in less than five minutes.
Growing those roses must have been really tiring. That book, which
was hugely promoted, lasted only two issues with Jim before he
handed the book to another writer and artist.
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John Byrne
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The covers included are all modern-sized, too, so that eliminated a lot of classic Silver Age material right off the bat.===== Not necessarily. The Steranko NICK FURY AE was about half and half. The first half is twice up the rest standard 11" x 17". •• The pages had already "shrunk" by the time I joined the industry.* The Steranko book is an interesting practical lesson in the impact of the reduction in size of the originals. _________ * When I was at Charlton, they were using up their stock of twice-up boards by printing the smaller sized guides in the center of them, leaving about an acre of space around the art on each original page. At least that wasn't as bad as Marvel's "austerity program" of having double-page spreads done on a single board turned sideways! Seem like the inkers were completely unable to adjust to that one!!
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Brennan Voboril
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Double-page spreads on a single board turned sideways? What year did they start doing that? Sheesh that's tiny isn't it?
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John Byrne
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Double-page spreads on a single board turned sideways? What year did they start doing that? Sheesh that's tiny isn't it? ••• Yes! And easy to spot. It was just before I turned Pro, as I remember it, that double-page spreads suddenly started displaying thick, rough lines, brought on by many inkers failing to compensate.
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Andrew W. Farago
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Marvel did the double-page spreads on single boards for a while around the mid-seventies. They don't quite fit the page right, the line weight and the scale of the lettering and word balloons don't quite look right, and the pages stood out like sore thumbs.
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