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Greg Nyman
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Readers of THE WEEK are mostly comic book civilians, so the Masterworks editions are very expensive and very hard to find.
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The softcover Masterworks are easily available on Amazon for around $17 each. Not too bad.
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Brian Lewis
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Barnes and Noble also generally has them in stock.
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Tim O Neill
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Thanks, guys - I didn't realize that the paperbacks were available online. I don't see these in the stores and assumed they had limited print runs. When Howe referenced X-Men Masterworks 4 & 5, my mind went to the hardbacks as I never see the paperbacks in bookshops. I thought he was referencing the hardbacks, even though the article clearly lists retail paperback prices! Duh!
The only Masterworks I see in Barnes & Noble are the early FF and AMAZING SPIDER-MAN. I rarely see the JB X-Men editions. I agree with Howe's choices of X-Men issues - I like that he included issues #122-131, which I like just as much as "The Dark Phoenix Saga". But when I saw the Masterworks edition numbers listed, I confess I had to look up what issues he was referencing. The paperbacks I most often see for JB use the story titles - "The Dark Phoenix Saga" and "Days of Future Past".
I remember when B&N published some Masterworks with a retail price of $12.99, and I thought it was going to be a long series of affordable paperbacks that were good introductions for kids. And I love the Masterworks editions, so I could benefit as well! It didn't last long, and they went up to $25.
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Legrand Flowers
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Greno: Not sure if there's any truth to this, but the book also reports-
Saturday, April 4, John Byrne hosted a party at his house in Connecticut, attended by several Marvel staffers and freelancers. In the backyard, a suit was stuffed with unsold issues of New Universe titles, a picture of Shooter’s face was affixed on the head, and the editor in chief of Marvel Comics was burned in effigy. --------------- Nice. Real classy.
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Nathan Greno
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Might not be true, Legrand. The "making faces at Wolfman" thing is not true.
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William Costello
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John Harrison: "This book really just left me depressed. I think it would scare anyone away from ever pursuing a dream of working at Marvel or DC. "
If you ever want to read a depressing book about Marvel, I would recommend Dan Raviv's Comic Wars. Dan Raviv is a CBS News reporter (I still hear him on CBS News Radio from time to time). I think the book is getting close to 10 years old by now, but Dan Raviv details how Marvel almost went down after Ron Perleman (not the actor) bought out Marvel through an LBO. I've read a number of business oriented books ("Too Big to Fail", "The Sellout") and Comic Wars is, in my opinion, one of the better book out there.
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Thomas Moudry
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The old saying about people not needing to know how laws and
sausages are made comes to mind; perhaps comics should be added
to the list.
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DW Zomberg
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Nice. Real classy. Because petty, egotistical tyrants deserve better...?
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John Byrne
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Greno: Not sure if there's any truth to this, but the book also reports-Saturday, April 4, John Byrne hosted a party at his house in Connecticut, attended by several Marvel staffers and freelancers. In the backyard, a suit was stuffed with unsold issues of New Universe titles, a picture of Shooter’s face was affixed on the head, and the editor in chief of Marvel Comics was burned in effigy. --------------- Nice. Real classy. •• As a way for a group of tired, frustrated, creatively stifled and generally depressed people to grab a little bit of fun and even some emotional solace from what seemed an inescapably negative work environment? Yes.
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Michael Penn
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John Byrne hosted a party at his house in Connecticut, attended by several Marvel staffers and freelancers. In the backyard, a suit was stuffed with unsold issues of New Universe titles, a picture of Shooter’s face was affixed on the head, and the editor in chief of Marvel Comics was burned in effigy.
--------------- Nice. Real classy.
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Shawn Kane
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Based on what I read in the book (and taking it with a grain of salt as I do with any kind of Tell-All), it seemed that all the good that Jim Shooter did at Marvel is balanced by his overlord-like ways and some really bad ideas. I like JB's line of how Shooter and Dick Giordano should have switched between Marvel and DC every few years. I will admit that, as a 12 year old at the time, the New Universe was pretty cool.
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John Byrne
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I will admit that, as a 12 year old at the time, the New Universe was pretty cool.•• Roy Thomas astutely dismissed the New Universe as "TV movies". They were like Marvel comics, but without budgets. And, as I have noted before, it did not help that there were two sets of rules governing the content. Nothing could appear in the comics that would refute the notion that they were all real, that they took place in "the world outside your window", so writers were forced to try to find stories that were interesting and exciting, but would not end up on the nightly news. Except in STAR BRAND, of course, where Shooter was free to have terrorists use a nuclear device to hijack a cruise ship in the middle of New York harbor. I wonder how NBC, ABC and CBS missed that one?
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