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Jason Czeskleba Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 May 2012 at 7:57pm | IP Logged | 1
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Ah, sorry I missed your post, Dave. So the fact that the original creators are no longer around to be upset makes it morally different somehow? If Moore were to pass away tomorrow, would the Watchmen sequel become acceptable in a way that it's not now? That seems very specious.
Edited by Jason Czeskleba on 28 May 2012 at 7:59pm
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Bill Guerra Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 29 March 2012 Location: United States Posts: 1072
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Posted: 28 May 2012 at 9:16pm | IP Logged | 2
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Alan Moore seems to be nothing more than a windbag to me. I've never really enjoyed anything of his. When I read comics, I want to have fun, drama, and adventure...not depressing deconstructions.
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Dave Kopperman Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 27 December 2004 Location: United States Posts: 3465
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Posted: 28 May 2012 at 9:41pm | IP Logged | 3
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Bill: I would definitely recommend the ABC line, which were fun and smart comics from top to bottom with stellar art. Promethea is part of this line, but it's definitely the outlier in terms of formal and thematic complexity. Everything else is just plain fun. The Jack B. Quick shorts with Kevin Nowlan, in particular, are a hoot.
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Joe Smith Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 May 2012 at 9:43pm | IP Logged | 4
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a 15 year old me had ZERO idea who the Charlton Characters were, yet I read and enjoyed WATCHMEN (mostly for the artwork...) with much enjoyment.
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Brad Teschner Byrne Robotics Member
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I enjoyed The Watchmen movie far more than the comic...excuse me, Graphic Novel.
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Jeffery Tolbird Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 May 2012 at 10:03pm | IP Logged | 6
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Has anyone read "The Hero with a Thousand Faces"? I saw a documentary about the author and it seems that nothing is original in storytelling.
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Neil Brauer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 28 May 2012 at 10:36pm | IP Logged | 7
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I enjoyed The Watchmen movie far more than the comic...excuse me, Graphic Novel ..................................................... I was at the comic shop I now frequent and mentioned I was a fan of the movie. I stood there waiting for the guys I was talking to to start berating me but they all said they loved it. The guy working there threw in--"Sex scene and all."
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John Byrne
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Posted: 29 May 2012 at 3:47am | IP Logged | 8
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I enjoyed The Watchmen movie far more than the comic...excuse me, Graphic Novel. •• You were right the first time. Despite the multiple repackagings, WATCHMEN was originally released as a COMIC BOOK SERIES. And, as I delight in pointing out, since the term "comic book" has no tie to a specific format, they're ALL comic books, no matter how they're wrapped.
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John Byrne
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Has anyone read "The Hero with a Thousand Faces"? I saw a documentary about the author and it seems that nothing is original in storytelling.•• I have said for years that there is only ONE story: boy meets girl. All we do is change the elements. Boy meets boy. Girl meets girl. Boy meets thermonuclear device. Etc. Ideally, tho, we try to make our latest mix 'n' match as original as we can -- and "originality" is not defined by having one of the characters say "This is where I got the idea from. . . "
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Carlos Mucha Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 29 May 2012 at 4:21am | IP Logged | 10
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Mister Byrne, the cover of what comic you was offered?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 29 May 2012 at 4:28am | IP Logged | 11
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Mister Byrne, the cover of what comic you was offered?•• I didn't ask.
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Carlos Mucha Byrne Robotics Member
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My curiodity was bigger then, lol.
I have mixed feelings about Watchmen.
I Love the feeling of the 70s comics. Superman and Batman were friends. Batman was a scientist criminal investigator and he could not win agaist everything. Comics were about adventures and heroes dont need it to be touff, just need it to be good and have honor. The Satelite JLA, the Avengers #141 and up, the Defenders, X-Men, F4, the Superfriends comics. All adventure and heroes were not afraid to be silly
Then the 80s came. I Love it Crisis, the 70s smiling Super Heroes in the 1982 Style Guide by Garcia-Lopez, I loves the Superman books by Byrne, Wonder Woman by Perez, keep lovin Batman by Aparo and even loke the New Flash Wally. But something was lost...
I enjoyed the story of Watchmen but that is not exactly what I look in comic books. In comics I want adventures, honor and heroes respeting each other and even if Watchmen is Great story it is not about what I enjoy in comics the most.
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