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Martinho Correia Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 3:35pm | IP Logged | 1
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What do you all think of the work of Anthony Mastromatteo?
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 4:53pm | IP Logged | 2
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Martinho: What do you all think of the work of Anthony Mastromatteo?
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Where is the "work" part?
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Knut Robert Knutsen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 5:26pm | IP Logged | 3
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A lot of modern art is not about creating something new but about some "idea" that the artist verbalizes and adds to the artwork as an explanation of why it is "Art". They have an Autumnal Vernissage every year in Oslo to show what is "new and relevant" and one year they had some art student whose artwork was an IKEA Kitchen and plastic cups filled with GHB. Another artist's work in another show was to blow up and make collages of photographs from illegal pedophile porn magazines (showing the undisguised faces of real victims of child molestation, without their consent). And yet a third artist paints using the mummified hand of a cadaver as a paintbrush. It's gone so far that one of the lead representational painters from Norway, Odd Nerdrum, refuses to call himself an "artist" and refers to himself as a "kitsch-painter". Of course, these may be only aberrations, or extreme examples, but to me they seem like empty gimmicks.
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Nathan Greno Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 6:27pm | IP Logged | 4
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Steve Ogden Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 6:56pm | IP Logged | 5
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I suppose they are titled "White #1" White #2 and "White #3."
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John Byrne
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 7:21pm | IP Logged | 6
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There are three pieces like that at MoMA -- with the difference that each is in a very thin frame of a different color. The effect is quite remarkable. Altho each piece is the same dead white paint, the color of the frames imparts a subtle suggestion of hue. You'd swear, for instance, that the one in the red frame is ever so slightly pink.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 7:36pm | IP Logged | 7
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Now, THIS is art. . . Yes -- both of them.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 7:48pm | IP Logged | 8
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"Speaking" of that particular work (the painting). . . "Christina's World" was one of my Dad's favorite paintings, and he was quite shattered when he saw a portrait Wyeth had done of Christina Olsen from the front. Not an attractive woman! (She also had polio, so let's be kind!) Today, after posting the picture above, I was reading up on the painting, online, and learned that only Christina's withered arms and her pink dress are actually hers. The considerably healthier torso and head of hair are actually Wyeth's wife-to-be, who was in her 20s at the time, compared to Christina's 50s. These damn artists! Buncha damn liars, I tells ya!!!
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Lars Sandmark Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 8:13pm | IP Logged | 9
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JB wrote: "...artists, buncha damn liars!"
I know how you feel Chief. That's why I love how you only draw from real life models that pose for you. Sometimes I marvel at how you are able to get people like Victor Von Doom to sit for you, or for example today's commission of Krakoa which required TWO sittings! I'm sure that's a skill all itself to handle tempermental models and all.*
*SuperHeroes are REAL, I don't care what any of you say!!!
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John Byrne
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 9:10pm | IP Logged | 10
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Lars' comment brings to mind Roger Stern's tongue in cheek ascertion that Alicia Masters was secretly the world's greatest super villain. Alicia could sculpt, as we were informed many times, anyone she had touched -- but ONLY those she had touched. Yet in her studio were statues she'd made of Doctor Doom, the Mole Man, the Skulls, the Sub-Mariner...
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Andrew W. Farago Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 10:00pm | IP Logged | 11
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Paintings by Yves Klein and Mark Rothko are pretty striking in a museum setting. College students and other people doing the same thing decades and decades later? Not so much.
I'll never be able to wrap my head around the notion that comic books and strips are just found objects that artists are free to copy outright. The music industry doesn't allow sampling without compensation and proper credit, but the art world doesn't seem to have any interest in going that route.
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Marcel Chenier Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 December 2011 at 10:34pm | IP Logged | 12
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It's plagiarism, stupid.
The only "trompe l'oeil" going on, as far as I can see, is the artist's statement.
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