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Andrew W. Farago Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 19 July 2005 Location: United States Posts: 4079
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 1:37pm | IP Logged | 1
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Ernst Krüger?
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Knut Robert Knutsen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 2:22pm | IP Logged | 2
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He probably means Freddy Krueger (Nightmare on Elm Street). Lars is not good with ... y'know, words.
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Andrew W. Farago Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 2:46pm | IP Logged | 3
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Still, it would be fun to watch Jason in deadly combat with a photographer of glamor shots: http://www.ernstkruger.com/portraits/
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Kip Lewis Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 March 2011 Posts: 2880
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 4:42pm | IP Logged | 4
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Regarding magic and Superman; is it just vulnerability issue or is it all his powers? Such as; IIRC Hulk (or was it another Marvel strongmen?) has broken free of magic bonds before, through the use of his super- strength; but could Superman?
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Dan Avenell Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 06 March 2008 Posts: 1038
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 7:03pm | IP Logged | 5
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It's nothing to do with his (in)vulnerability, it's that if a character uses magic to turn him into a duck he becomes a duck like anyone else would.
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John Byrne
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Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 133563
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 7:04pm | IP Logged | 6
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"What if Tarzan met the Phantom, they are both in a jungle, right?"•• As I have mentioned many times, that is the kind of fan-think that really makes me nutz. The way, at Cons, whenever discussions of cross-company crossovers would come up, the fans would so often go straight to the same/same meeting. Hawkeye vs Green Arrow. Mister Fantastic vs Plastic Man. Asgardians vs New Gods. Etc. We know, of course, that Tarzan and the Phantom are not (or should not be) in the same jungle, but immediately to my mind the story is better if NEITHER of them are in the jungle. If the meeting happens while, for some reason, both are in New York, or London, or Outer Mongolia. Get them out of their familiar turf and see how well they do.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 7:05pm | IP Logged | 7
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It's nothing to do with his (in)vulnerability, it's that if a character uses magic to turn him into a duck he becomes a duck like anyone else would.•• Precisely.
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Joe Hollon Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 08 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 13704
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 7:13pm | IP Logged | 8
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It's nothing to do with his (in)vulnerability, it's that if a character uses magic to turn him into a duck he becomes a duck like anyone else would.
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That was my biggest gripe about the Silver Age Martian Manhunter. His "vulnerability" to fire was so extreme he would literally faint if someone lit a cigarette across the street from where he was walking. That's just silly. He should be vulnerable to fire like anyone else, that's it.
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Michael Tortorice Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 15 November 2008 Location: United States Posts: 2903
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 7:14pm | IP Logged | 9
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It's nothing to do with his (in)vulnerability, it's that if a character uses magic to turn him into a duck he becomes a duck like anyone else would.
Okay. But do his powers work against magic or magical beings? Can his heat vision melt URU? Yeah, I know, its a fan-wank question. It would be just as easy to ask,"Could his heat-vision melt Alan Scott's ring?" But this all started with Superman and Thor, so...
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Kip Lewis Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 7:24pm | IP Logged | 10
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I think I remember one pre-Crisis storyline that said Superman was more vulnerable to magic than the average human and Zantanna, I believe, theorized that it was because as a Kryptonian growing in a science only world, they were less resistant or something with magic. I think they were going for the idea like when Europeans brought illnesses to the New World that were far more devestating to Native American populations than they were to European populations. Weird take, but it was someone's view.
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Keith Thomas Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 7:35pm | IP Logged | 11
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I think I remember one pre-Crisis storyline that said Superman was more vulnerable to magic than the average human and Zantanna, I believe, theorized that it was because as a Kryptonian growing in a science only world, they were less resistant or something with magic. I think they were going for the idea like when Europeans brought illnesses to the New World that were far more devestating to Native American populations than they were to European populations. Weird take, but it was someone's view. Very weird. Wouldn't that mean Superman could get a magic vaccine? ;)
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Kip Lewis Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 25 October 2011 at 7:54pm | IP Logged | 12
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Keith, I think that was the point of the story; trying to find away around it. Not so much a vaccine, but to make Superman invulnerable or at least less suspectable(sp) to magic. You can guess how it went.
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