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Posted: 03 August 2011 at 10:13am \| IP Logged \| 1

And let us not forget:

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Joe S. Walker
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Posted: 03 August 2011 at 11:05am \| IP Logged \| 2

Apart from its visual awfulness, the dialogue's lousy - tautological (half the words could cut out without losing any of the information conveyed) and self-reflexively "cool" in a way that basically mocks the story.

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Posted: 03 August 2011 at 1:19pm \| IP Logged \| 3

The Wally Wood example is perfect. Even if an artist is given something that dull to draw, they can change up the the perspective of the talking head to make it more exciting. I will say not much could make that Avengers sequence exciting. But at least give it a try.

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Posted: 03 August 2011 at 2:22pm \| IP Logged \| 4

Even a panning/rotating camera would be an improvement. Right profile to left, swing back on the next page.

But sometimes it seems the artists and writers WANT to be dull!!!

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Posted: 03 August 2011 at 2:32pm \| IP Logged \| 5

A good chunk of this...storytelling fad...was developed by Brian Michael Bendis because he was making his own comics AND HE COULDN´T DRAW!!!!!

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Posted: 03 August 2011 at 4:52pm \| IP Logged \| 6

I suspect a thread drift somehow.

Edited by Pascal LISE on 03 August 2011 at 4:54pm

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Paul Kimball
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Posted: 03 August 2011 at 8:24pm \| IP Logged \| 7

"talking heads" as everyone calls them might not make for a dull story imo
but I had never thought how it almost certainly is dull for the artist.

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Mike Norris
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Posted: 03 August 2011 at 10:41pm \| IP Logged \| 8

I find myself skipping over talking head pages.

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Posted: 03 August 2011 at 11:35pm \| IP Logged \| 9

In some modern comics that's most of an issue!

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Posted: 04 August 2011 at 12:41am \| IP Logged \| 10

And to add insult to injury, this thing is going on in both Avengers titles, for multiple issues. The same writer is telling a near identical "earning my place as an Avenger" story for Mockingbird and Red Hulk in both books using the same device.* Which I think they just did for Spider-Woman before. It's an awful lot of "why am I an Avenger?" REAL WORD: MARVEL confessionals instead of much actual Avengering. I was waiting for her to vote PossessedHulk! (or was it PossessedThing! in this issue?) off the island, rather than fighting.

I'd rather see an issue with 30 single splash pages with actual things happening.

*Can one even call the comic book equivalent to scrapbooking a device?

Edited by Craig Robinson on 04 August 2011 at 12:42am

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