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Jason Larouse
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I sincerely hope it's the latter 
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How is DC promoting this "new" line of books to people who don't regularly frequent comic stores?  I've seen the initial press-release reporting on the big "event", but what else beyond that?  Are they doing anything to actively seek out new readers, or are they expecting them to come running based on the preview artwork posted on comic-related websites?

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How is DC promoting this "new" line of books to people who don't regularly frequent comic stores?  I've seen the initial press-release reporting on the big "event", but what else beyond that?  Are they doing anything to actively seek out new readers, or are they expecting them to come running based on the preview artwork posted on comic-related websites?


In the link I posted at the top of the page, one of the things reported is that DC told retailers they're going to advertise via tv/movies and on the internet with facebook and email campaigns. It will be interesting to see how far they go with that.

edit- here's the quote:

"Advertising will be more significant…not only NATIONAL print/tv/movie ads, but also search engines, Facebook and emails"

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Just want to point out that Cyborg has been a member of the JLA for about a year or so already, although he has not been seen in the book since somewhere around #50 .
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Thomas Moudry
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Cyborg also figured prominently into Flashpoint.
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Joe Zhang
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If Cyborg's inclusion is tokenism, which minority is he a token of? Robotic Americans? The way Jim Lee draws Cyborg, he's 90% machine.
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"you find Bryan Hitch's work boring, I find his art as one of the most visually exciting artwork out there"

If your quote is accurate, Bryan Hitch himself admits his art is boring for children. But his epiphany goes only halfway, so he blames all of line-art for his own failing. If he did everything in CG, it would still be devoid of dynamism or fun.

This kind of gets to the heart of what is so shitty about DC's reboot. The talents involved know only how to write and draw for adults. That's all they're good for. Its inevitable that they would rather sabotage an opportunity for getting a new generation of readers into comics than write themselves out of a job. If anything, the bigger the mess they make of things, the more likely they end up producing Hollywood movies, as Millar and Bendis did with the Ultimate books.
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Kip Lewis
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Joe, Hitch didn't make the comment about children finding line art
boring; I did, referencing another discussion I had. And please don't
read that as "all children", but the point I was making that kids today
may have different tastes than kids years ago.

BTW, I think I would have loved Hitch's artwork as a kid too.   Even
then, I prefered more realistic art to less realistic styles.

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A child's taste for anything is what it's always been; what they're exposed to.  Lincoln Logs were over 50 years old by the time I was old enough to play with them and they were one of my favorite toys.  The first book to feature Winnie the Pooh was written in 1926, 41 years before I was born, and it was (and remains to be) one of my favorite books.  I devoured The Hardy Boys series of books that started in 1927.  Not the various updates seen through it's publication, but searched out original copies when I was a kid roaming through used books stores or from a friend of mine.  I was also one of the first kids on my block to get an Atari 2600 and usually had the latest Bionic Man or superhero doll (yeah, that's what they were called...not action figures).  I enjoyed things that were old when my mom was a kid and as young as the day before yesterday.  I certainly don't think that kids, yesterday, today or tomorrow, toss away or are turned off by things that are old or that their parents enjoyed.  They have the tastes they have because of what their parents expose them to as well as discovering things on their own.  It's not at all as simple as kids have different tastes today as if there was some magical moment in this generation of children that eschews anything invented or written before 2000.

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Damn logos thread...

I can't believe the Martian Manhunter will be in Stormwatch instead of
the new JLI. WTH?!?

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And also replaced by Cyborg?!?

Really?

Really?

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Matt, very well said. It kind of grates on my nerves when I hear comments about kids not reading comics because they're so different today and/or because there's so much competition in the form of video games, etc. Will ALL kids be interested in comics? Of course not, but ALL kids weren't when I was one either. While I'll obviously admit that comics will never reach the circulation they had in decades past, they can certainly do a lot better than they have been in the past 20 years or so. There will be kids interested in reading about the characters if they're portrayed the way they should be, the way they were when most of us here "met" them. I think we have several generations of readers represented here on the JBF. I'm 34 and I know many of the rest of you are in your forties, fifties, and some are younger than I am. Hell, JB is 60 and he and the rest of us all developed an interest, as kids, in the same groups of characters portrayed in character in well-written, well-drawn stories. I don't think the kids of today are any different if those publishing the comics can figure out how to tell good stories and get them seen. If I, as a kid, could become fascinated by Sherlock Holmes and seek out stories that were a century old then, there's no reason a kid today can't appreciate Spider-Man, for example, portrayed in a way that is true to the essence established by Ditko, Lee, etc.   
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