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Posted: 04 August 2010 at 9:24am | IP Logged | 1  

Incidentally, in order to make this happen more easily for IDW, I waved my first publication royalties, and am working strictly on a page rate basis. This is the typical IDW page rate, which is a whole lot less than I was paid at Marvel and DC.

Not sure why I mention this -- unless it is to inspire the Byrne Bashers to run out and turn the first new issue in a huge best-seller, knowing I won't make a dime in royalties!

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Nathan Greno: Nathan has always been my favorite!!

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Which is surprising, when you consider that Nathan Greno's real first name is Bethany.

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ncidentally, in order to make this happen more easily for IDW, I wavedmy first publication royalties, and am working strictly on a page ratebasis. This is the typical IDW page rate, which is a whole lot lessthan I was paid at Marvel and DC.Not sure why I mention this --unless it is to inspire the Byrne Bashers to run out and turn the firstnew issue in a huge best-seller, knowing I won't make a dime inroyalties!
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That was a generouse and gracious thing to do JB.


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Thanks for the answers on when it comes out.  I am pretty excited for this. 
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JB, will we be "seeing" more of Gillian?
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JB, I'm surprised you would even need to give up the first run royalties like that.  I figure JBNM would appeal to a wider fan base than the Star Trek stuff.
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I figure JBNM would appeal to a wider fan base than the Star Trek stuff.

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There are a lot more factors than the fan base. After all, we don't know at this point how many members of that fan base are going to walk into their LCS to order NEXT MEN only to be refused because "Byrne's stuff doesn't sell."

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As much as I would like to say, "oh, come on," I know that that does happen.   Many, many LCS owners and employees are wholly ignorant to the concept of "the customer is always right."   My dollar for a Byrne comic is just as good as somebody else's for the latest "Bendis Masterpiece" or whatever crap they're shilling nowadays.   Can you imagine walking into a supermarket and asking for help finding something and having the employees tell you "that's not what you want, this other item is better because it's a hot seller!"

IDIOTS!   The marketplace should provide quality stories by beloved creators who have an audience to those who wish to plunk their hard-earned cash down for them.   But it doesn't, because the marketplace is controlled by too many short-sighted, tunnel-vision group-think yes-men who are ruled by their own tastes and preferences instead of customer demand. 

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I actually went into what is still the LCS in the nearest "Urban" area probably 15 or so years ago as a potential "brand new regular customer."   Started looking around, the owner asked me what type of comics was I looking for.   I said something like, "I'm really looking for anything John Byrne has done."   He said to me, I kid you not, "What's the matter?   Don't you like Bendis?"

I had probably been out of the loop for a while.   I didn't even know who Bendis WAS.   Still, to this date, to my knowledge, I have never read a comic by this Mr. Bendis.   Nor do I feel much motivation for checking out his vast volume of awesome comics stories.   But I just wonder, if you were going to try to sell me something else, why did you bother asking me what I was really interested, what I was looking for?  

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Francis Grey
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About this particular LCS, oh, I could tell you tales . . .

It seems like just about every time I have gone there, the owner or an employee (got to create a consistent culture for the business) manage to go OUT OF THEIR WAY to infuriate me.   I don't go there that often.   But when I do, the only reason I am there is to spend some of my money on buying books.  Why do they have such a problem with that?

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There are a lot more factors than the fan base. After all, we don't know at this point how many members of that fan base are going to walk into their LCS to order NEXT MEN only to be refused because "Byrne's stuff doesn't sell."

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I'll get it once it is on the iPad, I have not been in a comic store in a while, it's too far to drive to on a regular bases. Meanwhile, I have spent over $100 on iPad comics since it has come out.


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Wallace Sellars
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I'm lucky. The guys at Ultimate Comics sometimes give me a ribbing
for being such a John Byrne fan, but it's always good-natured, and
they've never tried to dissuade me from buying any of JB's work. In
fact, I've been occasionally surprised to find old Byrne stuff pulled that
they thought I might enjoy. The gentlemen at Capitol Comics 2 and
Books Do Furnish a Room are great, too. I have been to a comic shop
(which shall remain nameless) where I heard the owner tell two
customers he wouldn't be ordering any more Byrne books because he
didn't like him any more. I didn't hear what caused the guy's change of
heart, but if I correctly recall, it was around the time LAB RATS was
getting started.

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