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Mark McKay
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It occurred to me this morning that there is another person who could be Sathanas.
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>Isn't this an obvious time paradox, the very thing that fills every single time travel story by definition?

Imho, no. In the TT stories the effect that comes before the cause is a paradox, but usually, from the point of view of the character that travels, the order of cause and effect is "normal", he has his own line of events even if he jump in the past or the future. Unless the rule you put in your TT story is "anything goes!" :)

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Again, a reminder to be careful with the speculation! That way lies SPOILERS!!
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Isn't this an obvious time paradox, the very thing that fills every single time travel story by definition?

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Imho, no. In the TT stories the effect that comes before the cause is a paradox, but usually, from the point of view of the character that travels, the order of cause and effect is "normal", he has his own line of events even if he jump in the past or the future. Unless the rule you put in your TT story is "anything goes!"

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Time travel "paradoxes" tend to spring more from philosophical contemplations than practical ones. In much the same way that scientists used to maintain that time travel was impossible because it would violate the law of conservation of mass and energy, until they realized the Universe is so BIG it would not "notice" something as small as an object moving thru time here on Earth (or, for that matter, the whole PLANET moving thru time!), so too would so-called "paradoxes" be of no concern.

If Henry Ford travelled back thru time and gave his younger self a fully assembled Model T, the attendant "paradox" would upset the balance of the Universe not one whit.

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> Time travel "paradoxes" tend to spring more from philosophical contemplations than practical ones. In much the same way that scientists used to maintain that time travel was impossible because it would violate the law of conservation of mass and energy, until they realized the Universe is so BIG it would not "notice" something as small as an object moving thru time here on Earth (or, for that matter, the whole PLANET moving thru time!), so too would so-called "paradoxes" be of no concern.

Is this a joke? If it's not, I apologize, but of what scientists are we talking about? Scientists talking of BIG universe that "notice" something and.. concern? They probably thinks that studying neutrinos is worthless, they're so LITTLE! :)

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Is this a joke? If it's not, I apologize, but of what scientists are we talking about? Scientists talking of BIG universe that "notice" something and.. concern? They probably thinks that studying neutrinos is worthless, they're so LITTLE!

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Entirely not what I said.

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Again, a reminder to be careful with the speculation! That way lies SPOILERS!!

This is why I didn't say more about the thought I had. If I am right or wrong after the fact, I will post what I thought.

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Al Cook
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Posted: 29 November 2010 at 3:41pm | IP Logged | 8  

Mark - I think you and I are speculating the same thing...
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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Posted: 29 November 2010 at 4:23pm | IP Logged | 9  

OK...no more speculation...
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Wallace Sellars
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What was David's ability, anyway, other than transmutating into a "goblin"
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Healing... I think! (Please see my post about David on the previous page.)
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Wallace Sellars
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Al, are you pondering what I'm pondering? (Shhh!)
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Francis Grey
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I read your earlier post about David, Wallace.   But, if you don't mind, is there any chance you could elaborate?   I feel there is something to that, I just can't substantiate it myself.
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