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Greg McPhee
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Posted: 10 June 2010 at 7:29pm | IP Logged | 1  

The article below is a view on the situation politically:

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/guest_co ntributors/article7147794.ece

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Jeff wrote:

What happens to all that solar power once it's absorbed?  We don't have the high capacity batteries for long term storage.  So, it's either use it now or it's lost.  There aren't a lot of major cities (some, but not many) in the desert that could use that electricity.  The technology for most alternate energy sources just isn't there yet.

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It's possible to collect solar power in orbit, convert it to microwave radiation (which will pass through cloud cover) to ground-based receivers.  Microwave energy can then be used to boil water to generate electricity in power plants.  Potential risk involved in targeting, however: if you miss the receiver, you're beaming microwave directly into populated areas. 

Storing electricity simply isn't an option.  It has to be generated in exactly the quantity it's being consumed, at the time it's used, regardless of the fuel used.  Power plants have to be built relatively close to the point the power will be consumed to minimize transmission losses, and they have to be built near large sources of water to act as a heat sink for the plant's condensers.

 

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Potential risk involved in targeting, however: if you miss the receiver, you're beaming microwave directly into populated areas. 

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Ah yes, the good ol' Sim City disaster favourite - microwaving your own citizens! I preferred the Godzilla knock off myself, but microwaving them was fun too.
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The microwave effect......wasn't this a Roxxon and Sunturion plot from the Michelinie/Romita, Jr./Layton Iron Man days???

It wiped out Allentown!!!

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In one of his adventures, Doc Savage fought a villain who used a microwave cannon to cook his enemies from a distance.  Didn't wipe out whole towns, but not bad for a pulp story from the thirties.

 

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Okay, it's settled. We need to build this microwave ray just for the villainy of it!




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When I was installing my first satellite tv dish back when, I told one of my granddaughters (who was about 6 at the time) that it was a death ray I was going to use to shoot down planes. 

She believed me, and wanted to see it work.  I love my grandkids!

 

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Regarding alternative energy, I think that on the day the last oil well's last pump cavitates and sputters and goes dry, someone in the employ of the oil business is going to say, "In a stroke of luck and pure coincidence, we've got this alternative energy source all tested and ready to go.  It's on your shelves now, and we'll tell you what it'll cost you to convert.  Lines are forming, don't hesitate."

They won't bother to say this earlier, because they've already got a product to sell; why go into competition with yourself?  The alternative will still be on their shelf when the oil is totally exhausted. 

After all, if we can see the day coming that all the fossil fuels will be gone, the oil companies can certainly see that day as well.  It's hard to believe that they'll willingly go out of business and allow someone else to fill the energy supply void.

 

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Alternative energy...
So, Brazil has Etanol for more than 30 years and USA charges high taxes, making it impossible to export it to US, as a result, Brazil seeks for other buyers and find that Iran has a huge problem buying gasoline, quite interesting for one of the world's hightest oil producers, but yet, true.
Now Brazil tries to support Iran in their nuclear energy program, that is very, very old, and weird, because their medical reactor is 8 times bigger than anyone in this world, so, they are probably trying to make a bomb, because Israel has it and because USA already invaded 2 countries nearby (Afeghanisthan and Iraq), let's not forget that the "weapons of mass destruction" crap that justified the killing of more than half million Iraq children and hundreds of USA soldiers.
The bottom line is: the world fight and make war just to control energy sources.
It would be nice if some new technology or new energy source could change the paradigm, what effect that would have on geopolitics...
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Toshiba has designed something that is really interesting, a Nuclear Battery that is maintenance free for over 40 years and can be used to produce amazingly cheap energy.
The waste is a problem that needs to be handled, but the potential is fantastic.
I hope that with the new generation of eletric and hybrid cars, that alternatives to Oil helps the western countries to focus on something else, unless anyone trully believes that all the focus on middle east does not have anything to do with Oil...
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The nut that needs to be cracked for Viable Alternate Energy is Hydrogen. Despite being the most abundant element in the universe - it's actually quite difficult to produce in mass quantities without burning a whole lot of fossil fuels to produce it. 

If someone out there perfects, say, a photosynthetic way to split water (as evolution has handily given plants the ability to do) then it's a whole new world. But as optimistic as the scientists working on water-splitting techniques are - they need time and money - which it seems we have less of every day.
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If someone out there perfects, say, a photosynthetic way to split water (as evolution has handily given plants the ability to do) then it's a whole new world. 

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Again, Super-Villainy is the answer! All we need is Poison Ivy to hook her "pets" up to batteries to charge them for us, and we're set!
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