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Steven Myers
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Here's the stats for the wind turbine at the school where I teach: http://northernpower.kiosk-view.com/huronwis
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Bryan Eacret
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"There's a 'no wind farms' movement around these parts that I find absolutely idiotic" In the sf bay area there are environmental groups that are concerned about the effect of wind farms on migratory birds and birds of prey. Birds have a tendency to run into the wind mills and die, supposedly in large amounts. Also, there is a concern about the noise generated by the wind mills, the amount of room they take up and that they are a general blight on the landscape. Usually when I pass by the huge wind farm in the hills, the vast majority of the windmills seem to be not operating and I wonder how much power is actually being generated.
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John Byrne
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…they are a general blight on the landscape.•• I find them quite beautiful. Almost a zen quality about them. 
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Ted Pugliese
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My Zen humming sound joke is not working here. I won't post it.
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Bryan Eacret
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The windmill farm in the bay area is not in a very picturesque location and the windmills actually make it a more interesting drive. They have several varieties of windmills and they cover a huge area. They just never seem to be operating, despite the wind that is constantly blowing throught them.
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Jodi Moisan
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JB I do too, when I brought my son back from LA we drove through Nebraska and Iowa and I was amazed at how tranquil the wind turbines looked. Plus here in our community we have a factory that has created jobs manufacturing parts for the wind mills.
Joesph I do support some nuclear, but I agree with Brad on the waste. The solar industry was growing and expanding in the 70's but big oil came in and bought out all the technologies, shut the factories and put us now behind the eight ball.
But for any republican to try to lay the blame of this spill on the democrats is laughable. I am sick and tired of the republican party being wrong and we have to come in and clean up the mess. From the deregulation of the lending institutions, invading Iraq and now this.
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Richard Marcej
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"In the sf bay area there are environmental groups that are concerned about the effect of wind farms on migratory birds and birds of prey."
I've heard this reasoning for not using wind farms.
Of course, drilling in the oceans for oil is so much safer then building wind farms, cause you know, you couldn't possibly kill birds or any wildlife creatures by drilling in an ocean, right.
Yes, the paragraph above is dripping in sarcasm.
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Jodi Moisan
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SHE: All this garbage and pollution! What can we do about it? ME: I guess we could load all the garbage into rocket ships and fire them into the Sun! SHE: Wouldn't that knock it down?
This made me laugh, score one for the more mature ladies.
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Robert White
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So people are perfectly fine with holding back superior,
safer, technologies for aesthetic reasons? Wind-farms being
a "blight" on the landscape and all. What a shock.
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Rich Rice
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Hey, what happened to "Business is in the business of making money?" With no responsibility to society beyond that? -Said voices used to post to this very Board... Why the silence?
What happened to the 'we can't harm the environment!' crowd...? You know, the people who lampoon global warming. The people who lampooned halting oil drilling in Alaska because it might harm poor, widdle spotted owls and such. The pathetic tears over oil soaked birds getting a bubble bath from Evironmentalist wackos. As if some bird should stand in the way of making $$$$.
What happened to the evils of BIG government? We don't need no stinkin' stimulus money! State's rights! It's my money. Don't be taking MY money and using it for the welfare of other people!
What happened to liberating free enterprise from the stifling oversight of EVILLLLLL Big Goverment oversight and regulation. Business knows best.
What happened to the hew and cry over Litigation awards against Big Business? Limit those cruel fines and let business do what it does best, Save America. -Awards and penalties are just people looking for windfalls. More stifling of free enterprise is what that is.
-Guess it's hard to speak up when Reality bites your principles in the @!#!...
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Mike O'Brien
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Funny you ask, Brad - JB had my answer - I say shoot it into the sun. Why not? Put it on the moon. Send it somewhere. My understanding - and I might just be swallowing the corporate line here, but my understanding is that there isn't a huge ammount of waste. And what we have we can send off to the moon or the sun or whatever. No?
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Jodi Moisan
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Rich Rice thank you.
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