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Monte Gruhlke Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 12:37pm | IP Logged | 1
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He's rich & just wants to get back to his life, Paulo. <said with a bitter taste in his mouth> ... of course while many thousands will soon be unable to.
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Brian Floyd Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 07 July 2006 Location: United States Posts: 8682
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 3:41pm | IP Logged | 2
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I have an idea, but I don't know if its legal. It might piss off BP's stockholders, pensioners and employees, but at this point why should we give a damn? BP owns around 100 of their gas stations in the U.S.; the rest are all franchises. So maybe the government should acquire a list of the stations BP owns outright in the U.S. and tell them that those stations are going to be closed and their employees put on paid vacation (can't fire them or lay them off) until this whole mess is dealt with and cleaned up if they haven't made significant progress by the end of this month. *edit* And that idiot congressman from Texas who actually apologized to BP for the way they're being treated then was forced to take it back should have been kicked off that committee. He's a traitor AND a moron, as far as I'm concerned. The oil industry clearly needs to improve their safety standards, and the next time something like this happens, the company involved needs to be made an example out of, whether its a foreign or domestic company. I'm not talking simply being fined; I'm talking being put out of business and people going to prison.
Edited by Brian Floyd on 20 June 2010 at 3:47pm
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 3:46pm | IP Logged | 3
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Nice idea, but I doubt 100 gas stations are going to make a whit of difference to BP...
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Wilson Mui Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 3:55pm | IP Logged | 4
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Personally, I don't care that Tony Haywood went sailing on his yacht. What difference does it make? The recovery effort is still going on and BP is still going to pay for damages. The politicians want to score points with the public by crucifying him and the media wants a story to talk about.
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Brad Krawchuk Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 4:22pm | IP Logged | 5
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Personally, I don't care that Tony Haywood went sailing on his yacht. What difference does it make?
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I don't necessarily think it's just that he was sailing on his yacht. I think it's a combination of that and the fact that he's seemingly dodged any kind of responsibility or accountability for the disaster, and he consistently stone-walls questions from the public, the government, and other agencies.
If he wasn't such a freaking DICK during this whole thing, and if he at least appeared concerned, and responsive, and remorseful, and if he had actually been DOING SOMETHING these past two months to help the situation, then I don't think anyone would care if he was on a yacht.
It's just, he's on a yacht taking a break from doing nothing, and basically giving the finger to everyone while he does it.
I think he should be taken out to the oil slick and thrown in.
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Wilson Mui Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 5:25pm | IP Logged | 6
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It would have been irresponsible for him as CEO to take responsibility for the spill without a full understanding of what caused the explosion. Imagine the field day the lawyers would have. He would just be putting the company in further legal jeopardy.
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Greg McPhee Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 5:31pm | IP Logged | 7
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"By that, you could also add damage to the Amazon rainforest and a whole host of other industries"
It's an important time for Americans to reflect on the environmental damage American corporations have been party to in other countries. But I don't see any indication in the media that people are even cognizant of this.
============================================== Joe, this is an issue which should be touched on. If you want a blame culture for one mess, have one for others.
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 5:34pm | IP Logged | 8
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But we're blaming corporations, not cultures!
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Greg McPhee Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 6:29pm | IP Logged | 9
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Al, I said "blame culture" I know corporations are responsible. OK --- BP dropped a huge bollock and have damaged the enviroment and should be made to pay a heavy price.
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Greg McPhee Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 6:30pm | IP Logged | 10
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Other companies and governments have done similar things.
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Kevin Hagerman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 6:58pm | IP Logged | 11
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Other companies and governments have done similar things. ---------------------- No one in this thread has even hinted that this were not the case. Consider: if you're driving down the road and your car bursts into flame, is that really the time to reflect on the plight of endangered species in the late 70s?
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Thom Price Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 20 June 2010 at 7:02pm | IP Logged | 12
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Other companies and governments have done similar things.
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I continue to be stumped by the point you're trying to make. BP shouldn't be held liable because in the past other corporations weren't held to such high degree of responsibility? That we should build a time machine, travel back 20 years, and make Exxon pay as much as BP?
If BP is being held more liable for damages they have caused, great -- hopefully it sets a precedent that continues.
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