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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 17 June 2010 at 11:58pm | IP Logged | 1
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Greg McPhee wrote:
Obama has built up a lot of negative reactions here in Britain. His "kick-ass" statement went down quicker than the Titanic with the British public. |
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So Brits would rather back an oil company that did a huge wrong simply because they're located "in country" than a president that's trying to make it right? They'd rather get their knickers in a bunch because a president wants to hold a British firm accountable for a huge mistake of gargantuan proportions rather than actually hold the British firm accountable for said mistake? Go UK!
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7882
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 1:20am | IP Logged | 2
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No, I think BP should be made to pay. But then I think all companies should be made to pay for the environmental and social damage they do - wherever that damage is caused. The problem is, this would have a significant impact on the cost we pay for all those expensive goods we like to buy at inexpensive prices. I think the issue in the UK is that from where we stand it looks like BP are being singled out when there have been many other instances which have not resulted in this type of reaction. Look at the disaster plans for any oil company - there but for the grace of God methinks.
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 December 2004 Posts: 12736
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 6:08am | IP Logged | 3
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" there have been many other instances which have not resulted in this type of reaction."
Just how many other disasters of this nature and magnitude have there been then, James???
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Wayde Murray Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 14 October 2005 Location: Canada Posts: 3115
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 6:31am | IP Logged | 4
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The media is still refering to this catastrophe as an "oil spill". A "Spill" is when I slop some coffee from my overfilled mug onto the carpet. When the water main in my house bursts and my basement is flooded, ruining the contents of the room, I don't think I'd tell my wife we've had a "spill". When I can't shut the water off and the damage is increasing, I don't think I'd tell my insurance company that the "spill" is ongoing. A better word needs to be assigned to this degree of damage. "Spill" has no weight.
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 12857
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 6:45am | IP Logged | 5
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"I think the issue in the UK is that from where we stand it looks like BP are being singled out when there have been many other instances which have not resulted in this type of reaction."
Indeed, the Exxon Valdez spill is largely forgotten. But unlike the Valdez, BP's "spill" goes on and on and on and on ...
Edited by Joe Zhang on 18 June 2010 at 6:45am
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David Ferguson Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 17 March 2007 Location: Ireland Posts: 6782
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 6:51am | IP Logged | 6
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BP should fire their chief. He just can't talk to the media without putting his foot in his mouth. The latest gaff being his "small people" remark. I was watching The Daily Show and it showed that Obama isn't saying anything that last 7 guys in the Office hadn't said about oil dependence and Nixon was the person who did the most on this. BP should be paying. No question. If they don't do so willingly, there should be enviromental fines.
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James Woodcock Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 21 September 2007 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 7882
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 7:28am | IP Logged | 7
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Just how many other disasters of this nature and magnitude have there been then, James??? ______________________________________________________ Exxon, Union Carbide in Bopal, Chernobyl to name but three
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 7:38am | IP Logged | 8
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Wayde wrote:
A better word needs to be assigned to this degree of damage. "Spill" has no weight. |
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I think 'gusher' or 'blowout' works.
Edited by Paulo Pereira on 18 June 2010 at 7:41am
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Joe Zhang Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 7:40am | IP Logged | 9
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I'd like to point out that BP, despite all their inept and deceptive actions, have been far more responsible than the financial industry, who took a trillion dollar bailout from the government and have shown not a hint of gratitude, let alone shame.
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joe glasgow Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 8:00am | IP Logged | 10
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Regarding offshore wind farms, we have a nice new one off the coast here and many love them (me) and many loath them (my mother). I think they are a serenely visible aspect of man trying to do something about the looming (if not already here) energy crisis.
BUT...
They are not built to last. The ones we have here are less than a year old and are cracking already and will fall into the sea in maybe less than three years. When confronted with this probability the company behind them replied that yes, this was the case and that they were confident that in the intervening time, they would probably come up with a solution... maybe.
Well, I am reassured.
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 8:29am | IP Logged | 11
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Exxon was nowhere near the same magnitude, and Bopal and Chernobyl were not at all of this nature.
Care to try again?
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Andrew Paul Leyland Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 28 April 2005 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 474
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Posted: 18 June 2010 at 9:21am | IP Logged | 12
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"So Brits would rather back an oil company that did a huge wrong simply because they're located "in country" than a president that's trying to make it right? They'd rather get their knickers in a bunch because a president wants to hold a British firm accountable for a huge mistake of gargantuan proportions rather than actually hold the British firm accountable for said mistake?Go UK!" Nah, you're basing that statement on a message board posting pertaining to a Daily Mail story - a "newspaper" that by it's own admission has said that if you don't hate somebody by the end of one of their articles then they haven't done their job correctly. They just decided Obama was the hate figure for that article and got all patriotic about it. Most of us think BP should pay up. Although, there's a World Cup on so a vast number of people don't care about anything else is going on on the world.
Edited by Andrew Paul Leyland on 18 June 2010 at 9:22am
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