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Michael Todd
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I always thought that had he been played up right Marvel`s Nighthawk could have been their answer to both Hawkman and Batman.


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Marvel has no shortage of analogs to both. Though I think Nightwing is the only one created as a deliberate Batman analog. That might be why they shied away from promoting him too much.

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I recall that Nighthawk was a regular in The Defenders through the 1970s and was killed off in that title around 1982. He was brought back in the late 1990s and has bounced around the Marvel Universe here and there for the last decade without generating a lot of noise.

I think it's less a case of Marvel not wanting to cross swords with DC and more that to date no one has developed an approach that makes him a particularly unique and compelling character.
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I cannot help but to wonder, if Superman had been sold to Timely rather than to National Comics, would he have evolved into his squeaky clean all American image we came to know or remained a sometimes brutal outsider battling social injustice and gangsters?




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CAPTAIN MARVEL revived as a Marvel Comics hero in the 70s would've had to worked out much better.  DC totally dropped the ball with the character and rarely has done anything worthwhile with him.  If he was a Marvel property first of all, the name confusion could be avoided.  He's better known as "Shazam" than his real superhero name.  That totally kills any mainstream popularity for the character.  Also, I'm positive Marvel would not have gone with the whole "let's take all the worst aspects of the Golden Age and exploit them in this modern series" approach.  Seriously, who was the audience DC was going for with that 70s Captain Marvel series?  I have no clue.


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I think that DC never got over treating Captain Marvel as their "ugly step-child" because they never forgot that this "Superman rip-off" outsold the Man of Steel back in his day.
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I dunno, with Roy Thomas at Marvel in th 70s they might have gone even more Golden Age than DC did.

Though to me Captain Marvel just isn't the right fit for Marvel in any era. Humorous,light and whismical isnt a Marvel trademark.  You'd have to seriously alter the concept to make Marvel a Marvel comic.

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Thor is a bit DCish with his secret ID and weakness



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I don't know about permanent swapping of characters but I think it would be cool to see Dr. Strange interact with the Sandman mythos or encounter Dr. Fate, Deadman, the Phantom Stranger ect ect.

Maybe a young Bruce Wayne could receive some martial arts training in the city of K'un-L'un as it passes through the DC universe once every ten years.
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I don't know about permanent swapping of characters but I think it would be cool to see Dr. Strange interact with the Sandman mythos or encounter Dr. Fate, Deadman, the Phantom Stranger ect ect.

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A meeting between Dr. Strange and John Constantine would be...interesting.

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