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Matthew McCallum
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Emery, Wouldn't the Tea Party be more like Hydra? I don't recall AIM being run by ex-Nazi's. And Hydra had a hot chick for their figurehead, too. (Need to buy a sarcmark...)
Edited by Matthew McCallum on 11 February 2010 at 4:42pm
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Emery Calame
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AIM began as a split off of Hydra, and I really don't see what the ex nazi crack is supposed to be about. Meh. Whatever dude.
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Stephen Churay
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I almost always get upset when a writer decides to inject there own personal political view as a characters. In this case even more so. To me Captain America should represent the American ideal not particular political point of view, either from his mouth as a character, or the book in general.
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Ed Deans
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Brian Miller: I think you missed what Craig noticed. Not only is it mentioned in the article, they included the below example from the issue. M***** did exactly what you feared with the term. The mind boggles. 
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Mike Benson
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Is there any further proof needed that these idiots don't get it?
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Victor Rodgers
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I could go on google and find real pictures from these rallies more insulting.
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Mike Murray
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It's hard to understand why the "tea party" wasn't out there protesting when Bush turned our surplus into a deficit, enacted the Patriot Act, and sent our soldiers into two different wars, one of which even most Republicans I know now admit was a mistake. After six months of Obama they started "wanting their country back" - what's he doing worse than Bush? He didn't raise taxes... I'm willing to accept that racism isn't a factor, but... why now?
Edited by Mike Murray on 11 February 2010 at 6:04pm
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Mike Murray
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"M***** did exactly what you feared with the term."
While it doesn't belong in a Captain America comic - that was an actual sign at a tea party rally, not an invention by Marvel.
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Mike Norris
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Sad to see Marvel buckling under to these whiners. A few questions though:
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| Since 1941, Captain America has been one of the most popular comic book characters around. The fictional super-patriot fought Nazis during World War II, took on those who burned the American flag during the Vietnam era, and raked in hundreds of millions of dollars for Marvel Comics along the way. |
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My Cap collection from the 60s is a bit spotty, when was a flag burning depicted? I started getting every issue around #139 (1971)
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| "When I was a child in the '60s Captain America was my favorite superhero," he said. "It's really sad to see what has traditionally been a pro-America figure being used to advance a political agenda." |
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How can a charater named "Captain America" not have a political agenda? And what was "anti-America" in the story?
Edited by Mike Norris on 11 February 2010 at 6:28pm
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Greg McPhee
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How can a charater named "Captain America" not have a political agenda? And what was "anti-America" in the story? ============================================================ Captain America is not a political character. He doesn't represent the US Government, he represents and fights for the American Dream. He will oppose the US Government if he thinks it goes against it. I'm Scottish and even I get this point of the character.
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Mike Norris
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Been reading Cap since the 70s and have sampled stories from the 40s thru the 60s. I get what he's become and also know what he was. He's been used to further all sorts of agendas. He's probably one of the trickiest characters to write because the American Dream is as vast and diverse as America its self. You really gotta watch how its defined or someone is bound to get their knickers in a twist. Edit to fix some spelling.
Edited by Mike Norris on 11 February 2010 at 7:22pm
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Andrew W. Farago
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If teabaggers are so concerned about their public image, why do they continue to let people like Sarah Palin claim to speak for them? For that matter, why do they let 90% of their members gather publicly?
That sign in the Captain America comic didn't even register when I was reading it, since it doesn't seem odd that there's overlap between white supremacy movements and the teabag movement. I wouldn't assume that one bad apple is representative of the whole bunch, but yeah, there are absolutely some racist teabaggers out there. I guess the teabaggers are reacting so strongly to this because they want to distance themselves from that fact.
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