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Joakim Jahlmar
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| Posted: 04 January 2010 at 11:43am | IP Logged | 1
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Great start of the commission year. Mighty fine work, JB. And huge congrats to Steve (and thanks for a fantastic commision idea).
Someone mentioned the idea of an Avengers version... there's a thought. Personally, I kind of like JB drawing older versions of both Marvel and DC heroes and villains, possibly because Days of Future Past way back when grounded a fascination in me of seeing such alternative future histories on display.
John Bodin wrote:
"Too bad you weren't doing FF and X-Men at the same time when the 'Dayof Future Past' storyline was published -- I could easily see thisbeing the cover for a Fantastic Four crossover special -- the storycould have recounted the Fantastic Four's role in that future tale. Perhaps Ben and Franklin helped Kitty and Wolverine at some pointoff-panel . . ."
Franklin is in it, isn't he? I seem to recall him and Rachel being an item there. And isn't Ben listed among the gravestones or something as well?
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Juan Jose Colin Arciniega
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| Posted: 04 January 2010 at 12:39pm | IP Logged | 2
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Wow...whatta great way to start the year!
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Arc Carlton
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| Posted: 04 January 2010 at 1:37pm | IP Logged | 3
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I remember Franklin Richards dies in Days of Future Past .
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Flavio Sapha
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And isn't Ben listed among the gravestones or something as well?
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Maybe this cover was shot five seconds before he buys the farm.
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Bosch Fawstin
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Excellent, and a great way you conveyed shadow.
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Charles Valderrama
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| Posted: 04 January 2010 at 11:55pm | IP Logged | 6
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WOW... Great idea for a commission!!! One of my favorite X-MEN story linesand a story that should be told from this particular angle... by JB of course!
BTW, whoever had the idea of a DC version of this read my mind!! Oh, the possibilities!!!
-C!
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Hunter McFalls
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This is one Great example of why I am a John Byrne Fanatic!!!!
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Joakim Jahlmar
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| Posted: 05 January 2010 at 6:23am | IP Logged | 8
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In response to my own:
"And isn't Ben listed among the gravestones or something as well?"
Flavio wrote:
"Maybe this cover was shot five seconds before he buys the farm."
Just for clarification, my comment was related to John Bodin's "Perhaps Ben and Franklin helped Kitty and Wolverine at some pointoff-panel . . ." not to the commission piece itself (which clearly is a story unto itself).
Having had the chance to check on the actual X-Men story, it confirms what I previously brought up:
Ben is indeed dead, future Kitty passes his grave (along with all the others) on her way back after meeting Logan.
And Frankling is in on the escape from the camp but is the first one to die (well, strictly speaking, I guess Magneto is the first one, buying the others time to escape) down in the tunnels when the team is discovered by Sentinels.
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John Byrne
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It's interesting to contemplate the "backstory" on this piece, in the context of "Days of Future Past". Since Ben, Sue and Reed are, indeed, seen among the gravestones in that significant panel in the original X-MEN issue, it is possible to speculate that the Sentinels did what they are usually programed to do, ie round up and slaughter mutants, and when the non-mutant variants realized what was going on, they sprang to the rescue, only to get slaughtered themselves. Why are there still some mutants alive, then, and no non-mutant variants? Clearly, since one of the mandates of the Sentinels is to prevent mutation -- recall how Cyclops tricked them into flying into the Sun in that Thomas/Adams/Palmer issue -- they would keep some alive for study and experimentation.
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What I also find interesting is that some mutants--Kate at least--have some degree of freedom to wander around outside the internment camp unescorted.
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John Byrne
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| Posted: 05 January 2010 at 7:31am | IP Logged | 11
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What I also find interesting is that some mutants--Kate at least--have some degree of freedom to wander around outside the internment camp unescorted.•• But wearing a power-neutralizing collar.
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Flavio Sapha
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| Posted: 05 January 2010 at 7:48am | IP Logged | 12
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it is possible to speculate that the Sentinels did what they are usually programed to do, ie round up and slaughter mutants,
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Slaughter? Didn´t they take the mutants alive, most of the time? DOFP was the only instance I remember in which the sentinels used lethal force.
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