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Scott O'Malley
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i personally like JB's art, but have prefences...Superman, for instance. Couple my favorite character with one of my fave creators... I am disposed to liking that more that JB's Atom... not because one is better drawn... I just like the character more.
The image creators iritate me because they like to quote Neal Adams and Jack Kirby, but these Image boys don't really have old (old meaning CLASSIC) stuff.... JB's current work is compared to epic, classic runs on X-men, FF, Avengers, Superman... long runs with huge following. Of course the new stuff may take it on the chin in comparison to these classic runs totaling together over 200 comic books. 4000 pages!!!!!!
Erik pencilled a couple years of Spiderman and has done Savage Dragon ever since then.... there is no "your older stuff is better" for Erik... your older stuff was not prolific enough to garner the comparison....
Edited by Scott O'Malley on 11 July 2009 at 8:08am
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Jim Muir
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Rob C I agree - Steve Ditko immediatley sprang to mind. Early and Late Ditko are worlds apart.
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Trevor Giberson
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I love Steve Ditko - I still buy the self-published stuff he's doing in his 80s :)
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William McCormick
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I liked Erik's post and didn't think for a second he was doing it to get under JB's skin. He made some good points about why people tend to prefer an artist's older work to his new work, even if the newer work is technically better.
Erik pencilled a couple years of Spiderman and has done Savage Dragon ever since then.... there is no "your older stuff is better" for Erik... your older stuff was not prolific enough to garner the comparison....
That statement is just asinine. Whether you like his work or not is beside the point, he's been drawing comics for 25+ years. Just because he didn't do as many pages as JB has no bearing on anything. He still would have improved in that time.
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John Byrne
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Early and Late Ditko are worlds apart.
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Yes and no.
Ditko was one of the many artists who did not adjust well when the size of the original art boards was cut almost in half in the early Seventies. But much of his creator owned stuff today has the same snap and crackle of his "old stuff". Ditko, like Kirby, also suffered from having the spirit beaten out of him by the Companies.
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Scott O'Malley
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"the older stuff is better" argument works for prolific creators. they have a celebrated body of work that is constantly scruntized.
That does not apply to Erik Larsen... i think it is arrogant of him to assume that it does!
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Jason Mark Hickok
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I agree with William I think it was as much about himself (talking about Erik) as any other artist. I also don't think it was a real negative post just pointing out some facts that I agree with. Also, Erik has been working in comics for as long as I have been reading so there definitely can be a comparison between his "old" work and his newer work. Both of which are fine in my book.
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Wilson Mui
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I wonder how much of what fans like about the old stuff is because of the inker or nostalgia.
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John Byrne
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Well, at least Erik signed his name to it, this time.
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Wilson Mui
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How about focusing on being the best artist you can possibly be, and not worrying about what other people think? ========= BTW - I think this is great advice for any profession!
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Brian Miller
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"the older stuff is better" argument works for prolific creators. they have a celebrated body of work that is constantly scruntized.
That does not apply to Erik Larsen... i think it is arrogant of him to assume that it does!
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This is simply a stupid post. ANY artist that has been doing work any period of time can be subject to "your older stuff is better." Being prolific or popular has absolutely no bearing on it whatsoever.
Why not try to be productive in a conversation instead of trying to further some sort of vendetta you have against Larsen on behalf of John Byrne? JB can stand up for himself just fine when he needs to.
Edited by Brian Miller on 11 July 2009 at 9:09am
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Jim Muir
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<<Ditko, like Kirby, also suffered from having the spirit beaten out of him by the Companies>>
I think there's a lot of truth in that, JB. Its the same in any profession - the relentless daily grind is not designed to produce great work, its there to get the job done.
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