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Robert LaGuardia Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 10:55am | IP Logged | 1
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I love Quitely's work and see no problem with the image posted. I have never read anything that suggested Quitely is trying to draw realistically. I just don't see the distinction between one form of stylization and another.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:05am | IP Logged | 2
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Couldn't find an image to compare but here's another marked lack of grandeur--
The woman's expression (and action) could hardly be any more blasé and Colossus rather looks like he's yawning.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:07am | IP Logged | 3
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I don't quite get the Quitely cover. Batman towering over the cityscape? Some guy's hand in the foreground? Who is that guy? What impact does that cover have?
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Donald Pfeffer Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:17am | IP Logged | 4
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QUOTE:
Do Not start deliberately negative threads. Don't post just to bash. |
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How is this not a deliberately negative thread, started just to bash an artist's drawing? I ask not because I'm judging, but because I honestly don't understand the distinction.
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Michael Andrew Gonoude Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:21am | IP Logged | 5
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To put it simply, Neal Adams is Neal Adams, and everyone else...isn't.
(Though JB, despite his modesty, is at least in the same galaxy).
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:26am | IP Logged | 6
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I wouldn't put Adams that far above everyone else. In fact, there are a few I'd prefer over Adams.
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Keith Thomas Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:26am | IP Logged | 7
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Couldn't find an image to compare but here's another
marked lack of grandeur--
At first glance I didn't realize that was Goliath, I
thought it was someone the same size as everyone else
"flying" above them. Then I realized that was his leg in
the back. It also made me wonder who the Torch was looking
at.
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Thom Price Byrne Robotics Member
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It takes a special kind of talent to make a guy with steel skin, a guy on fire, and a giant look mundane.
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Michael Andrew Gonoude Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:31am | IP Logged | 9
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Kevin Hagerman: 'Frank Quitely is a pseudonymous pun on "quite frankly".'
Thanks, Kevin; that was the first thing I thought of the first time I saw his name (I tend to mentally 'unscramble' unusual names), but I've never seen it confirmed. I was always willing to believe he had either unusually clever parents, or else incredibly oblivious ones who had no idea what they'd done.
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Michael Andrew Gonoude Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:33am | IP Logged | 10
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Paulo Pereira: "I wouldn't put Adams that far above everyone else. In fact, there are a few I'd prefer over Adams."
I'll get the tar, JB; you bring the feathers!
Edited by Michael Andrew Gonoude on 27 June 2009 at 11:37am
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Brian Miller Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:41am | IP Logged | 11
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His real name is Vincent Deighan.
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Stephen Churay Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 27 June 2009 at 11:44am | IP Logged | 12
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JB, I've been noticing the same thing with a lot of today's "hot" artists. In fact, it seems like it's become Marvel's house style. I blame Alex Ross for this, although I'm sure you can trace it back further. But, he seemed to make it chic. The idea of bringing a "real world feel" to comic art was a novel idea when he did it way back in MARVELS. Now when other artists do it it just seems bland. the work has no power to it at all. I like to use J.G. Jones' work on FINAL CRISIS #1 as an example of this very problem.
SPOILER!!!
The issue ends with Martian Manhunter being stabbed thru the back by Libra. This is the big WOW moment of the issue, and I was underwelmed. That was the most boring death I've seen in comics, the violence was shown on screen, and it had NO power. The more realistic comics seem to get, the more they get rid of conventions that make a comic book work as an artform. This panel had no linework to show motion, and no use of dramatic foreshortening. If I were the editor, I would have made him redraw it.
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