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John Byrne
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 6:00am | IP Logged | 1
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Speechless.
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Wallace Sellars Byrne Robotics Member
Joined: 01 May 2004 Location: United States Posts: 17700
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 8:21am | IP Logged | 2
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Alan Davis did a great job drawing the fastest man alive in his NAIL books. (Not that I can name a superhero Davis doesn't draw well...) It would be nice to see him have a go at an ongoing Barry Allen FLASH title...
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Michael Huber Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 8:23am | IP Logged | 3
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Isn't that like 22 pages every thirty days? I mean, that's roughly a page a day with weekends off?
JB,
Aren't most books fully written now (full script), with copious amounts of detail handed to the artist? I mean, there's no sitting around and going "I wonder what I need to put in this panel", it's all spelled out ( probably in too much detail). I realize there's always camera angle, and such, but there shouldn't be any agonizing over the page content, just how best to display it? How does that take 30 days for 22 pages, especially from someone that's in the business and hopefully comfortable with the format, techniques and such?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 8:26am | IP Logged | 4
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Not so much "I wonder what I need to put in this panel", but a LOT of "how the am I supposed to draw THIS??"
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Michael Huber Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 8:43am | IP Logged | 5
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haha, okay, that I can see AND understand.
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Michael Huber Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 8:47am | IP Logged | 6
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JB,
With everyone complaing about the lack of "movement" in the pages, IE: 6 panels to drink a glass of water, do you think maybe a little of it is the artist feeling he needs to draw a picture simply to help the next picture be more clearly understood, in other words "not drawing it the best way" the first time. I feel I might not get my point conveyed here.
The artist has to "make X do Y" and feels he needs 4 panels prior to make sure the audience understands it, instead of maybe one or two panels that are so clear about it,, it almost hits you over the head?
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John Byrne
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 9:19am | IP Logged | 7
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Six panels of someone drinking a glass of water sounds to me like it is more
a symptom of boneheaded writers thinking they are working on screenplays
or, worse, novels, and failing to take advantage of the format in which they
are working!
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Knut Robert Knutsen Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 9:33am | IP Logged | 8
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The only way there should be 6 panels of a guy drinking water is if the page is a 15 panel George Perez page and he's using the 6 panel sequence as a gag while he has a speedster running around in the background solving a problem that the slow waterdrinker is oblivious to. I mean, no-one can knock the stuffing out of a talking heads script the way George Perez does.
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John Byrne
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 9:47am | IP Logged | 9
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Maybe not present tense, but. . . .
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Jason Schulman Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 12:29pm | IP Logged | 10
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But then they decided at the last minute, after killing Bart, that if
they were going to bring Barry back it had to be a 'Big Event'. So
they literally brought back Wally and the kids as 'filler' until Final
Crisis. So we got about a year worth of lousy Flash comics, Wally's
happy ending ruined, and a character that I don't think anybody knows
what to do with.
Bart is easy to take care of: send him back to the 31st century. (And have him join the Legion. I mean, why not?)
Wally and the kids...well, if it was up to me, they'd lose their powers, permanently, and that would be that.
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Dave Phelps Byrne Robotics Member
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Posted: 13 April 2009 at 5:05pm | IP Logged | 11
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If Barry gets to be "The Flash," then it's Wally who should be going to the 30th century. Heck, have HIM join the Legion. Bart has a purpose in the present day as Kid Flash. Wally's stuck being "the other young adult speedster."
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Michael Huber Byrne Robotics Member
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Hmm, can't they both be the Flash? Can you imagine the "he can't be in two places at once" mindset. The bad guys would be sooo freaked out, and at the speeds Barry and Wally can move, it would seem to be one person.
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