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A 'real life" Batman would not survive his first night. Even contemplating
such things begins to suck the magic out of these flimsy little daydreams.

Call it Tinkerbell Syndrome. When you stop believing in them, they die.
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Chad Carter
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That's my feeling. It doesn't seem as if the library would be able to satisfy
everyone's demand. Libraries, generally, wouldn't have more than a few
copies, at most, of each title available.

I've gotten under the impression that the readers who don't know "classic" comics just don't know what they're missing, therefore there is no demand.

The Companies keep talking about "being in competition" with video games and movies and the like.

Why is it a competition? That's a defeatist attitude right off. NOTHING is going to compete with video games in a gamer's mind. Just as nothing will compete with movies in a movie-lovers mind. Or STAR WARS in a Jedi-dork's mind.

You're not convincing those people comics are better than what they pander to and spend their money on. Nobody is yanking the controller out of a Grand Theft Auto zombie's mitts.

No, the Companies need to accept their nature, particularly with superhero comics starring icons...they are specifically for, about, and predicated on the Ideal Reader. This Reader needs stimulation the Companies can provide. the Companies are not competing, they are completing a circuit between This Type of Reader and themselves. The Reader loves the characters, the adventures, the universe, and the stories, primarily because, get this: they've never seen them before.

The mystery is solved. These characters and these story formulas within superhero comics survived all these decades, why? Again, because there was always Readers still excited about the formula.

That's the beauty of comics: naivety. The good kind we all had.

 

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You don't list your birth date in your profile, but I'm going to go out on a
limb here and guess you're not 12

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I not sure if this is atypical but as a 12yr old I enjoyed snappy dialogue as
well, although of a different sort than I do now as an adult.
I can't remember for sure, but I think the last time you replied to something
I said John, you may have said you thought I was 12! I'm going to update my
profile right now.

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Whatever else the "naturalistic" dialog we see so much in comics these days
might be, I am not at all sure I could call it "snappy"!
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Alan Davis did a couple page story called The Crusader, which was a Batman type characters first night out, ill need to dig it out . .
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Then in the next panel, he gets up....

Simon BJ

 

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That's pretty much it in a nutshell. Superhero comics from day one have asked for willing suspension of disbelief. The trick, if we can call it such, is to know how far to push it. Batman eludes automatic weapon fire because the bad guys don't know where to shoot inside the billowing shadows of his cape. Well, "realistically", unless he's really Reed Richards in there (and "realistically" not even then) that's not really going to work.

But it does work. It has to work. And that's the magic.

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Wow. Never noticed such a Neal Adams influence on Davis's work.
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the last panel in this 2 page sequence blows everything Miller has done with All Star Batman and Robin right out of the water.2 simply beautifull pages

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