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Brian Talley
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Posted: 10 April 2008 at 8:59pm | IP Logged | 1  

Wait -- did she work for Mark Chiarello?

Yes she did.......



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When dissing me became shorthand for I AM SOOOO KEWL, it was only a
short hop to dissing those who don't dis me for the same effect.
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Posted: 10 April 2008 at 9:03pm | IP Logged | 3  

Wait -- did she work for Mark Chiarello?

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Yes she did.......

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JT Molloy
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Posted: 10 April 2008 at 10:32pm | IP Logged | 4  

I discover about her in "Lying in the Gutters" when she wrote a poignant
story about herself " Good-Bye to comics " a year ago or so and followed
her blog since then

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Eww, Lying in the Gutters.

Rich Johnston is the Joan Rivers of comic books.

Feel free to quote me on that.
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JT Molloy
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Posted: 10 April 2008 at 10:48pm | IP Logged | 5  

Whoa whoa whoa,

Scroll down in her articles a bit guys, she posts a panel from an issue of
Mighty Avengers where Doctor Doom is calling Ms. Marvel a fat whore?!!?

So misogyny is back full swing in comics again eh?

YUCK.

The most offensive part of nonsense like this to me is that people like
Quesada have this ability to convince the fanboys that speaking in such a
manner in a superhero story is some kind of "high art".
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Knut Robert Knutsen
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Posted: 10 April 2008 at 10:53pm | IP Logged | 6  

"Doctor Doom is calling Ms. Marvel a fat whore?!!?

So misogyny is back full swing in comics again eh? "

Not just misogyny. It's totally out of character for Doom. He might kill her or rant about her (or anybody else's)  inferior intellect, but he'd never stoop to such a base insult.

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Steven Cassidy
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Posted: 10 April 2008 at 10:56pm | IP Logged | 7  

The only "Byrne" comments I hear at my LCS are the classic "the old stuff was better" (as I buy a new Byrne book).  I usually just respond with, "no, art is art - the older stuff was just different".

I don't know anyone who has actually met Mr Byrne, so I've now other stories.

That is a nice article, though.


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JT Molloy
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Not just misogyny. It's totally out of character for Doom. He might kill her
or rant about her (or anybody else's) inferior intellect, but he'd never
stoop to such a base insult.

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That's an absolute "given" if I've ever heard one.

Going for the throat of women in comics gets my goat first.

I'm pretty used to the notion of Marvel characters acting like whatever the
current writers feel is necessary to get their bullshit points across. (Which
is why I don't read anything by them 'cept BND: Spider-Man these days.
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Jodi Moisan
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Posted: 10 April 2008 at 11:28pm | IP Logged | 9  

Nice blog and great reflection on Mr Byrne. From what I see on this forum pretty right on.
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Joe Zhang
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I think Doom can be a misogynist. He is definitely a sociopath. But the dialog ... oh gods.


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Neil Lindholm
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I am so glad I only read Uncle Scrooge comics now. 
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Michael Lee
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Who wrote that crap? I want to make sure I never buy one of their books.
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