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Matt Hawes
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Derek wrote:
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Yes. Swiping is more about being lazy than untalented for many artists.
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Matt Hawes
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| Posted: 08 April 2008 at 9:01am | IP Logged | 2
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Flavio wrote:
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Freshly-discovered swipes rejuvenate it.
Personally, I am enjoying the discussion.
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Donald Miller
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Maybe there is hope for me...I can trace really well...in school I used to trace figures from comics and recontextualize them... I did this for my own entertainment and that of my friends...but, I never presented it as my own work. They knew I was tracing/cut and pasting...
It seems now this is what the industry wants. I could change careers.
Don
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Wallace Sellars
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| Posted: 08 April 2008 at 11:54am | IP Logged | 4
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Just for clarification...
Wallace DIDN'T write:
JMS gave us a story in Amazing Spider-Man about a tailor who caters to superheroes and villains. Clever? I thought so, too - when I first read the story "Neutral Ground" in the paperback book The Further Adventures of Batman back in 1989. I looked to see if maybe JMS had penned that story. He didn't.
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Jim Campbell
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QUOTE:
It seems now this is what the industry wants. I could change
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I think that this - perhaps - is the most galling thing of all for those of us
with a modicum of artistic ability.
Y'see, I can construct a perspective, I can draw an anatomically correct
figure, but I lack that vital spark that brings the illustrations to life and I
have had to accept that my own abilities fall short of what is required to
make it as a professional artist.
But - you know what? - I shouldn't have worried. I could just have been
tracing (ahem, referencing) artists with real ability and making a
living from someone else's talent.
It's positively dishonest.
Grrr.
Jim
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Martin Redmond
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If you change it enough so that it's your own, I say it's tolerable. But there's a point where it's just the equivalent of lip synch and failing at even having your lips follow the song right. And Joe Q is an artist himself, he should be ashamed.
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Jozef Brandt
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Wasn't Jorge Lucas known for basically swiping Lobo?
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Dave Aikins
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I'm tired, so I thought you wrote
"wasn't George Lucas known for basically swiping Lobot?"
This is a sign that I need to go to bed...
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Kevin Hagerman
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Same here Dave (except for the "Lobot" part)
And I just woke up.
Edited by Kevin Hagerman on 09 April 2008 at 12:13am
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Sam Karns
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Jorge's work appears to be a homage to Jack. I can't blame him for this. Jack Kirby did a very compelling looking Hulk.
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Donald Miller
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| Posted: 09 April 2008 at 3:04pm | IP Logged | 11
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an homage would be an imitation of Kirby's unmistakable style. An exact duplication is a swipe...
Don
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Todd Douglas
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QUOTE:
| What if I like a story but I don't like swipes? I like New Avengers but having to buy a comic full of swipes really annoys me. |
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Easy solution to getting the same effect as an issue of New Avengers, without the artistic swipes: buy sleeping pills.
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