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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 4:12pm | IP Logged | 1  

Sorry. Just paranoid, I guess.

I would hope that this is all truthful (and in that case, I do sincerely offer my condolences), but given what's happened in the past around here, it's hard sometimes not to be suspicious.

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Allen Moyer
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 4:23pm | IP Logged | 2  

Nothing wrong with being skeptical, but considering that it may be true that the guy just lost his mother, was it really necessary to air your suspicions? Was it really necessary to throw it in his face? Better to be the guy who suggests someone's loss is a lie "just in case" than be silent, right?

I only hope for your sake that people are not so callous and thoughtless in your time of loss.
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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 4:24pm | IP Logged | 3  

Point taken.
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 4:26pm | IP Logged | 4  

 Dave Phelps wrote:
…Wolverine ...should be left largely unchanged…

 JB wrote:


Which Wolverine?

 

I was just thinking again this morning about how Wolverine changed over the years. I liked (not admired, but liked) the version of Wolverine from JB's era on "The Uncanny X-Men," where the character was a psychotic, loner nutball who was with the X-Men in part to help him suppress and cure his psychotic tendencies. It made for a (at that time) unique and interesting dynamic when contrasted with the other members of the team.

Starting with the "Wolverine" mini-series, I feel that the character changed drastically, developing into some uber-macho, arrogant, cocky, unbeatable, know-it-all, smart-ass thug. I just didn't care for that take. Even though the earlier version was a nut, he was more sympathetic in that he was trying to control his wild side. The later Wolverine was/is just a jerk.

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Oh! And while the newer version of Wolverine still claimed to be a loner, at times, he seems to have met and/or befriended nearly every Marvel character (at least any halfway connected to an arm of the military) during his past.



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Todd Hembrough
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 4:31pm | IP Logged | 5  

Guys, a board members mother died. It gave him a very personal and deeper understanding of the dilemma Peter Parker faced.  He opened up here, and for his trouble he is called a liar, and told that he 'disgusted' our legendary host, for who the fuck knows what reason.

Well, I guess this is a snap shot of how all these 'imaginary' Bad Byrne stories start, and if you consider the treatment of this one grieving (ex?) Byrne fan as just a single fan, I wonder if anyone even cares whether he is going to go out of his way to get FX or the Romulans or Citizen Zero.

I wonder if the estimable rumor mongers at LITG are going to pick it up and pillory our Comic Book Legend Host.

When people talk about the importance of Viral Marketing in the current Internet World, this isnt the kind of marketing they are talking about.



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Zaki Hasan
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 4:33pm | IP Logged | 6  

Well said.
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Brian Talley
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 4:43pm | IP Logged | 7  

Talk about stepping over the line.
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 4:50pm | IP Logged | 8  

"Hey, my Mom just died! Think I'll pop over to ByrneRobotics and use that to
support my position on the latest Spider-Man story!"

I find this disgusting, and / am the one who's at fault?

Reassess your world view, guys. Soon.
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 4:59pm | IP Logged | 9  

Point taken.

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What point, Greg? That we should blindly accept whatever comes across
the internet? In the dozen years I have been online, I have "met" a
"woman" who had a partial miscarriage, losing one of the twins she
had been carrying (and reporting upon to the great delight of fellow
posters) -- until "she" was revealed to be he, and a hoaxer. I have seen
dozens upon dozens of fake named trolls posting their arguments and
rushing back to support them under other names -- sometimes so
clumsily they forget to change their names and are caught busily agreeing
with themselves. And, as noted, here in the Forum, we have seen one
member actually fake his own death!

Now this. Greg Hakecki has been on the mod-radar for a while now. He
seems to have no qualms about starting whole new threads to discuss
topics already under discussion -- including this one. Yet his own
mother's death he buries in a thread already forty pages long?
Conveniently in support of his prior statements?

If his mother has truly died, it is very sad, and he has my condolences.
But I am still disgusted that posting the news here, in this context, would
be among his first actions.

Are some going to grab hold of this now and run around shouting and
screaming with it? Of course. They have nothing else to do with their
lives. There is nothing I can do about it, and I am not even going to
contemplate guarding my words against any such possible actions. What
would be the point?
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 5:02pm | IP Logged | 10  

To Greg Kirkman:

I know you idolize Mr. Byrne and all but could you please stop being his lapdog. I see this with fans on this board who do a complete turnaround on a subject or they wait until Mr. Byrne gives his opinion on something and then post so they choose the same side as him. Its very pathetic. 

Its like that kid on the Twilight Zone movie who had unlimited superpowers so the people that lived with him were afraid to express any opinion other than what the kid said.

I'm sure that Mr. Byrne doesn't want people who just agree with everything he says. Otherwise, it would be a pretty boring board.

Kirkman, you quietly give your condolences. Then Byrne speaks up with a differing opinion and then you feel all brave and start speaking out against this guy.

Show some balls next time. Post your controversial opinion BEFORE Byrne posts.  

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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 5:16pm | IP Logged | 11  

First post in three weeks, and you accuse Greg Kirkman of waiting for
someone else to point the way before speaking his mind?


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Greg Kirkman
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 5:17pm | IP Logged | 12  

What point, Greg? That we should blindly accept whatever comes across
the internet?

++++++++

That I should try to look before I leap.

It's just not worth the effort to argue about this stuff. I think I'd rather keep my mouth shut about any suspicions I might have instead of inviting everyone to dog-pile on (which I apparently just did).

I found it bizarre, and yes--convenient--that this gent posted about his mother dying in the manner that he did. Suddenly, after pages of arguing and being called obtuse, he gets a flood of people offering condolences for his loss.

I must reiterate that I do sincerely offer my condolences if there really was a death in the familiy. But the fact remains that my spider-sense tingled. People have used such tricks to try to create a climate of distrust and anger around here before.

At first, I offered my condolences, despite my silent suspicion. JB then opened the door on voicing some suspicion, and I walked through it, since the matter was now clearly open for discussion. And then a guy who signed up with the forum three days ago was kind enough to take me to task for it.

 

I feel badly that this has all happened in this manner. Is that not good enough?

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