I do read Spider-Girl.

What is your point?

I think the biggest problem with this discussion is people are confusing bad ideas with the context that they occur in.

If Peter were still in high school, and they wanted to do a story like Sins Past, whey would they NOT do it anyway? We would be seeing Gwen and Norman have the affair in "real time" as opposed to flash back.

Gee, that would make all the difference wouldn't it?

Where is the corrolation saying that the stories shouldn't be more or less all ages friendly if they depict a Peter Parker in his mid 20's and married? Are any of you stupid enough to think that having a younger Peter would stop them from writing crappy stories?

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Way to use completely unbiased and factual arguements to support your theory. You out to just cut through the nonsense and come out and say "The stories where Peter are maried are no good because I said so."

QUOTE: My point is, with SPIDER-GIRL you have a book where Peter Parker is

...a supporting character.

I've no interest in Spider-GIRL...I'd love for there to be a readable Spider-MAN book again.  Aside from a nearly three-year blip on the radar that was FNSM, there hasn't been one for years.  Marriage or no.

Glen, that is true, however the book isn't about Spider-Man is it?

Over and over I keep asking "what is wrong specificly with having Peter aged a little and undergoing a relatively normal lifespan?"

I haven't seen a single good answer other then "because I don't like it".

I can point out absolute facts to support my stance that charachters do NOT have to be teenagers to appeal to young readers.

I can point out that the comic book industry has always had a very large component of older teenagers, young adults, and adults as part of their success. Comic books that only appeal to 12 yr olds like JB thinks he should be writing for have never achieved the success as the ones that appeal to the broader spectrum of readers.

I can point out that there are plenty of younger AND older readers that prefer one over the other as far as the marriage goes.

Turning Batman into Superman isn't the same thing as Peter Parker taking one of his romantic entanglements to the next level.

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SER: I'd agree with you but the marriage was but the worst of many changes to Peter Parker:

No longer a teenager

No longer a student

No longer lived with his elderly aunt

All three things -- just to name a few -- were things that set him apart from other heroes of the period.

Okay, so I really enjoyed Spider-Man while he was married.  He got married not long after I started collecting, so he has always been this way to me.

I didn't ask for Spider-Man to be married, I was just a kid. But I liked him that way, even as a kid.

So, for everyone who says they they should do something for the kids, why don't you take two minutes and ask a kid instead of assuming you know better.

That being said, I read BND.  I liked it.  I never demanded Spider-Man not be married, but now he isn't.

Of course maybe I was never a fan of Spiderman because I never demanded stories be a certain way. All I can say is, thank for for that.  Never did I have to rant, rave, thump my nose at, cry, whine, piss, throw my hands up in disgust over him or tell someone else they were wrong for liking him however they wanted to.  I can simply continue to enjoy the stories I already like and can look forward to future stories that I will like.

Very well said Brian.

Way to use completely unbiased and factual arguements to support your theory. You out to just cut through the nonsense and come out and say "The stories where Peter are maried are no good because I said so."

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Spider-Man being awful for the last twenty years (with a few exceptions) makes it so,

The stuff about Peter not being 26 is true. Add up all the times a passage of time has been mentioned in th Spider-Man books. You get him being 24 at most.