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Martin Redmond
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Howard Stern? XD This just keeps getting ridiculous. Of course he wants MJ dead, he's got to move on from one aging Motley Crue groupie to the next before she learns he gave her hepatisis A through Z. Those guys can't conveive of a steady girlfriend. Why on earth would they even want Stern's demographic reading Spider-Man?
Why bring back Harry and not Gwen?
What a circus.
Edited by Martin Redmond on 09 January 2008 at 1:14pm
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Vinny Valenti
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This seems like yet another half-assed reboot. Either tell the fans the past never happened and begin anew, or don't. Either continuity matters, or it doesn't. I think the problem that exists now is that TPTB are trying to have it both ways, leaving both sides of the continuity aisle unhappy.
DC made this same mistake over 20 years ago with Crisis. The existance of Crisis itself meant that DC felt that continutity was important enough to explain how they were starting over with a single Earth. But then they kept certain titles as-is, such as Teen Titans, and then seemed annoyed when fans questioned how Wonder Woman can be rebooted when Wonder Girl relied on WW's existance. Take a stand one way or the other, but trying to have it both ways only leads to a bigger mess.
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Vinny Valenti
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"Why on earth would they even want Stern's demographic reading Spider-Man?"
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Well, unless they find away to get the original demographic (i.e. kids) into comic book stores, thats who they have to rely on. Which leads to the question of why they did this in the first place. The aging fanbase by and large wanted Spider-Man to remain married, regardless of what was best for the character. And with no effort being made to bring back kids that will identify more with an unmarried Peter Parker, you have to wonder why they are even bothering.
And why wait until AFTER the Spider-Man movies have run their course? Why not do this in 2002?
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David Teller
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I still think a combination of "in story" change (Probably utilising time travel) and real life fragmentation of the timelines into a range of separate books set in different universes would be best.
Keep a book running in a "Generations" style, "growth" and "aging". Launch an all ages main title with a inherently frozen time period. Utilise the Ultimate title to go mad in with the British writers.
I'm waiting for Uncle Ben to come back as a cyborg spirit called "CarJack".
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Mike Bunge
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""Erased somehow"? "Seem to remember something"? This is rice paper
where what is needed is steel."
You have to remember something, JB. These guys wrote a gigantic crossover based on a "Super-hero Registration Act", yet they never bothered to actually write up such a thing or even make an official decision about what the Act actually entailed. The result being that the requirements of the Act were portrayed in radically different ways while the crossover was underway. They just don't think this stuff through.
Mike
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Martin Redmond
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Even funnier, if you read the latest interviews, some of the plots will tie in to stuff that's happened way back when such as Gwen and Harry's death. Cuz brand new readers are going to want to know about plots that happened 30 years before they were even born.
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Donald Miller
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Here we have proof positive that Mary Jane somehow knew it was all inevitable.
Don
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Emery Calame
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I took a peek at Brand New Day at the comic store. I may be mistaken but it sure looks like Mary Jane Watson is secretly a costumed super heroine now ...Vootie?
Edited by Emery Calame on 09 January 2008 at 3:05pm
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Eric Joseph Hernandez
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Man, this is messed up. I'm halfway expecting Spider-man to become a new Spirit of Vengance or something like that.
"Look Spider-man's head is on fire, and he's shooting fire instead of web!"
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Emery Calame
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Web-Fire!
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Howard Mackie
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<<Man, this is messed up. I'm halfway expecting Spider-man to become a new Spirit of Vengance or something like that.
"Look Spider-man's head is on fire, and he's shooting fire instead of web!">>
EXCELLENT idea!
Howard
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Mike Bunge
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In regards to Emery's Mary Jane spoiler...is it just me, or does it seem like DC's silver-age storytelling has become the foundation of M****l's super-hero comics? Even when the stories are all "adult" and stuff, the underlying conceits seem to be much more DC than Marvel.
Mike
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