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Zaki Hasan
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Very true, Steve. The very computer with which I'm typing this post has stored on it PDFs of the entirety of AMAZING SPIDER-MAN from issue 1 to issue 500-something, so it's not like I'll ever have a dearth of reading material if I'm in the mood for "my" Spider-Man.
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Rich Abreu
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This was a non-reboot reboot. All they wanted to do was eliminate the marriage, not bring Spidey back to Stan's glory years or to a point where he can be relatable to a younger audience. He STILL isn't in high school, he STILL isn't 16 etc. Instead of a grown-up, married Peter Parker all we have is a grown-up, single Peter Parker. This could have been more easily accomplished with a bullet. To the younger audience, he is no more relatable then he was before. To the older audience who have been following him for years, Spider-Man is more convoluted and confusing than ever. Also, with the maturity level of the people at Marvel, Peter Parker will no doubt be portrayed as an immature, college poon hound. If they did all this so they can show Peter Parker getting laid at a kegger I'd rather have him stay married.
Spider-Man back to basics? Mission NOT accomplished!!!
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Charles Valderrama
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I totally agree-- lots of good points made here and i also don't like the
direction Spider-Man has gone for the past several years but the bottom
line for M****l is whether the books sell or not so the status quo will always
be rocked to sell the books. i think it is a disservice to the character but
i'll stick to the back issues to get my fix for good Spider-Man stories.
At least for now.
-C!
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Steve Lyons
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Comics fans are a passionate, vocal lot. It should be of some comfort to the powers that be that people care about their product enough to be upset when things don't work. I believe, however, the day is not far off when there will be no fan uproar over a reboot. The silence will be deafening.
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Scott Madsen
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So, Glenn Greenberg or someone who knows--
I think I missed something. If the reboot had somehow led to Gwen being alive, how would that lead to Sins Past having never happened? (I mean, I get that the present-day material would presumably have to be substantially altered, but the information presented in the flashbacks-- which established the more objectionable parts of the story-- might still stand since it predated Gwen's death by a ways.) I don't get it.
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Mike Norris
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I have to wonder it this has more to do with bringing Spider-Man comics more in line with the film version of the character than a "back to basics" approach for the comics.
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Zaki Hasan
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If the reboot had somehow led to Gwen being alive, how would that lead to Sins Past having never happened?
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From the interview with Joe Q. on Comic Book Resources:
Mephisto
was going to change continuity from as far back as issues #96-98 from
1971. In Joe’s story, Peter drops the dime on Harry, and that helps get
him into rehab right away. Consequently, MJ stays with Harry, and Gwen
never dies and never has her affair with Norman, etc., etc.
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Howard Mackie
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<<…I've seen readers in their 40s swearing off the book…
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Readers who, in a perfect world, would not have been there in the first
place. >>
Exactly!!!
Howard
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<<Well, I'd say things started going off the rails with the Clone Saga. >>
It took longer than I thought to invoke the "C" word.
Howard
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Howard Mackie
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<<This was a non-reboot reboot. All they wanted to do was eliminate the marriage, not bring Spidey back to Stan's glory years or to a point where he can be relatable to a younger audience. He STILL isn't in high school, he STILL isn't 16 etc. Instead of a grown-up, married Peter Parker all we have is a grown-up, single Peter Parker. This could have been more easily accomplished with a bullet. To the younger audience, he is no more relatable then he was before. To the older audience who have been following him for years, Spider-Man is more convoluted and confusing than ever. Also, with the maturity level of the people at Marvel, Peter Parker will no doubt be portrayed as an immature, college poon hound. If they did all this so they can show Peter Parker getting laid at a kegger I'd rather have him stay married.>>
REALLY good point. I did not realize that the marriage was the ONLY thing undone--I don't read the books. As Glen pointed out in an earlier post, the same thing could have been accomplished with a divorce. THAT would have been a more human, down to earth, thus more SPIDER-MAN story. So.. this isn't really a REBOOT at all? Why all the sound and fury?
Howard
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Frank Brannan
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So you really see no difference between a divorced Spider-Man, a widower Spider-Man, or a single Spider-Man?
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Divorced Spidey: bad example for the kiddies
Widower Spidey: too gloomy
single Spidey: a true swinger, baby <g>
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