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Malachy Crotty
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 10:41am | IP Logged | 1  

John Byrne wrote:

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"I repeatedly specifically said he posted it. I never referred to it
being part of chat. "

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But I did. Perhaps someone should do a search for the original offending
remark. Let's find out where that lay.

Oh -- and if you can't find it, does that mean I can deny I ever wrote it?


John Byrne posted on Network 54:

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Re: Erik Larsen speaks about George Perez!     July 24 2003, 1:29
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Larsen suffered the fate common to many of his "generation" -- he got
"hot" before he was ready, and froze, fearful of losing his adoring fans.
(Not a problem that has ever afflicted me, to the chagrin of many of my
adoring fans!).

At a con at Texas A&M University I met the guy who was/is Larsen's
"background man". Now, it is usually inkers who have background men
(Keith Williams has on occasion been mine), and their job is to ink the
backgrounds, as the name might suggest. This guy, according to his
story, drew the backgrounds in Savage Dragon.

The Flash Dance school of comicbook art, apparently.


Nice to see if any of the folks disputing my posts can "put up or shut up"
regarding their own claims.

Mal

Chatt Reed wrote:

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Malachy, you're the type that has taken great pains to be
absolutely obnoxious in the few posts we've exchanged in this thread. It
took you all of one post to condescend and two posts to call me names.
You're also the kind of person that wants to frame the debate in the only
way he can win. Nothing but. Chat doesn't count because, well, you say
it doesn't.


Seriously Matt is this how discussion goes with you? Misconstrue posts
then attack the poster with lies?

I didn't call you any names though I note you you were the first to start
tossing round childish titles: "Malachy Chatty wrote"

What do you think of name-calling Matt? Petty, pathetic?

Mal



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Al Cook
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 10:52am | IP Logged | 2  


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Nice to see if any of the folks disputing my posts can "put up or shut
up" regarding their own claims.

It's clear that this is in direct response to me telling Malachy to "put up or
shut up" about the post he was so specific that JB had made. SInce I haven't
made any claims myself, nor disputed any of what he has said, it's becoming
apparent to me who is guilty of misconstruction here...
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Malachy Crotty
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 10:55am | IP Logged | 3  

Not at all Al. That's why I didn't quote you or refer to you.

Though it's telling that you think that I should validate my claims but not
apply a similar call to everyone who claimed to be aware of 'The Apology'.

One rule for one and another for others eh Al?

Mal



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Matt Reed
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Typo bud.  Sorry 'bout that.  But who was the one that started throwing around idiot?  Not me.  You fell pretty easily into that one though, didn't ya?

And where did I "attack" you?  I answered your questions and replied as best as I could.  I never "attacked" you, unlike yourself when you didn't like the answers I gave you:


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Misconstruing what someone wrote to correct them on something they
never wrote? Where'd you pick up that trick from?



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Nice to see how supportive your being of JB though, remembering
something inaccurately and all in his defense.



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Who'd have thought a mod would be prepared to leap to his defense
clearly remembering that he clearly wrote something that he can't recall
but being unable to remember it seems anything about it.



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I specifically responded to your post regarding "posts" Matt, even quoting
it to ensure even an idiot couldn't misconstrue what I was referring to.


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So either you did deliberately misconstrue what I wrote or accidentally
misconstrued what even an idiot couldn't.

Though it's cute that you're amazed by folks whose mental faculties
exceed your own.

The only thing I misconstrued was your ability to be able to discuss this rationally.

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Matt Reed
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Oh, and five years from now should you ask me when and where I apologized to you about the typo, Malachy, I won't be able to remember that either...just that I did.
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Al Cook
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Not at all Al. That's why I didn't quote you or refer to you.

Though it's telling that you think that I should validate my claims but not
apply a similar call to everyone who claimed to be aware of 'The Apology'.

One rule for one and another for others eh Al?

Mal


Mal, I had very pointedly used the phrase "put up or shut up", directed
specifically at you, just one post earlier.

You didn't quote me or reference me? Laughable!

And the notion of "One rule for one and another for others"? THAT WAS
EXACTLY MY POINT, although I was making it about you. You were
bandying about people like JB and Matt not posting reference when you
weren't yourself!

It's apparent that you are being deliberately obtuse.
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Malachy Crotty
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 11:06am | IP Logged | 7  

Matt Reed posted:

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Typo bud. Sorry 'bout that.

Apology accepted Matt.


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But who was the one that started throwing around idiot? Not me.
You fell pretty easily into that one though, didn't ya?

??? You accused me of name-calling now you're ret-conning it to my
vocabulary?

I didn't call you an idiot Matt.


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And where did I "attack" you? I answered your questions and
replied as best as I could. I never "attacked" you, unlike yourself when
you didn't like the answers I gave you:


Some might say that referring specifcally to the poster your engaging as
"Obnoxious", 'Condescending', "a waste of time and energy" and lying
about them starting 'name-calling'
would constitute attacking them
rather than their post Matt.

Wouldn't you agree, especially since you even find imagined attacks and
name-calling where there aren't any!

Mal




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Matt Reed
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 11:20am | IP Logged | 8  

So you see nothing in what your wrote above that I quoted in order, all prior to my reaction to you in the post you now reference, as constituting being obnoxious, condescending, and name-calling? 

No "imagined attacks" at all, Malachy.  Just read your remarks to me (conveniently pulled for you four posts above) about what you assume to be me "misconstruing" your point by passive-aggressively slamming me and then outright stating that the only way I could be stating my point the way I am is that I'm an idiot because there certainly is absolutely no other reason...unless I'm deliberately misconstruing it.

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Malachy Crotty
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 11:28am | IP Logged | 9  

Seriously Matt so much for "a waste of time and energy" eh?

I've accepted your apology re: the name calling thing why not move on
and drop this back and forth?

And Al as per 'EXACTLY YOUR POINT' when exactly can we look
forward to you calling on "people like JB and Matt not posting
reference"
to "Put up or shut up"???

It's clear that I don't subscribe to 'the one rule for one another for others',
how 'bout you?

Mal

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Knut Robert Knutsen
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Maybe "miconstrue" is his  word for the day and he felt the need to take it out for a spin.

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Al Cook
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 11:36am | IP Logged | 11  


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And Al as per 'EXACTLY YOUR POINT' when exactly can we
look forward to you calling on "people like JB and Matt not posting
reference"
to "Put up or shut up"???


Why would I need to when you yourself had been doing so? I was merely
injecting a modicum of fairness that it was time that you held yourself to
that same standard.





Edited because I didn't want to misrepresent Malachy by not
including his use of boldface.


Edited by Al Cook on 17 February 2008 at 11:38am
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Lars Sandmark
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 12:23pm | IP Logged | 12  


This ain't my fight, but I have been reading along.
On page 69 of this thread Malachy quoted JB's post from Network 54 from 2003.
Proof right there that JB's quote is "BACKGROUND MAN" in PARENTHESIS!.
Then, quote - "This guy according to HIS story drew the backgrounds in Savage Dragon."
Then the word - quote - "apparently."

(sorry everyone, I don't know how to 'quote function')

Seems that JB was going by info he was given by this guy he met.
Based on what Malachy supplied here, I find Byrne blameless.
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