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Malachy Crotty Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 18 October 2005 Posts: 37
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 9:20am | IP Logged | 1
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Matt Reed wrote:
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You can find quite a number of posts on the old Net54 board, but
that wasn't around long enough to count as an exhaustive log for all
things John Byrne.
In short, you're asking people to find hard proof where there is none to
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Actually he made the accusation on the old Net54 board Matt; that's the
board whose archives still exist. Any apology made there would still be
there.
So how am I asking people to find proof where there is none?
Larsen on the other hand just asked when and where, he didn't ask for
proof. JB ignored him.
What are your thoughts on that Matt?
Maybe seeing as how you remember reading it you should post when and
where JB apologised.
Mal
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Tim O Neill Byrne Robotics Security
Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 10959
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 9:26am | IP Logged | 2
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I think it's crazy that people are insisting an apology needs to be doled out in a certain way or in a certain fashion. I think an apology is a personal thing and is unique to that person. Whatever goddamn form it has ever come to me has been acceptable. I take apologies seriously - both when I extend and accept them. And when you get to that point, move on.
In this case, we see two people who differ on many subjects, and yet one of those people, JB, has still found it necessary to offer an apology. Twice! And once is capital letters! This doesn't erase their differences, which are a separate issues for a separate discussion. I'm honestly disgusted that when an apolgy has been qyuoted three times now, I'm reading posts that effectively say "not good enough." I just don't get it.
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 9:28am | IP Logged | 3
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Malachy Crotty wrote:
Actually he made the accusation on the old Net54 board Matt; that's the board whose archives still exist. Any apology made there would still be there. |
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Not true. We had a rudimentary chat board on Net54. Chats were never saved. There are no archives of chats.
Malachy Crotty wrote:
Maybe seeing as how you remember reading it you should post when and where JB apologised. |
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Not gonna play that game. I can't remember specifics like that, just as I can't remember every instance when and where I read that someone thanked me for doing something or chastised me. I can only remember that I have read it, having been around JB boards for a long time. Either you believe it or you don't.
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Malachy Crotty Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 18 October 2005 Posts: 37
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 9:41am | IP Logged | 4
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Matt Reed wrote:
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Not true. We had a rudimentary chat board on Net54. Chats were
never saved. There are no archives of chats. |
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Actually what I wrote is true Matt. I never mentioned 'chats'.
Misconstruing what someone wrote to correct them on something they
never wrote? Where'd you pick up that trick from?
The accusation was made in a post on a thread, not in chat Matt. I already
pointed this out. JB claimed it was likely that any apology would be made
in the same forum as the accusation; he made the accusation in a post
on the board.
So where is the apology then?
Nice to see how supportive your being of JB though, remembering
something inaccurately and all in his defense.
Who'd have thought a mod would be prepared to leap to his defense
clearly remembering that he clearly wrote something that he can't recall
but being unable to remember it seems anything about it.
Mal
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Mark McKay Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 9:45am | IP Logged | 5
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For the record, John Byrne has apologized to Erik Larsen a total of 34 times in this thread.
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Tim O Neill Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 9:51am | IP Logged | 6
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Not good enough!
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 9:55am | IP Logged | 7
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Malachy Chatty wrote:
Misconstruing what someone wrote to correct them on something they never wrote? Where'd you pick up that trick from? |
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I'm sorry, but you assume I'm misconstruing something you've written and then slam me for your assumption. Good on ya, Malachy!
I misconstrue nothing. You say that what John initially wrote was on Net54 and so the apology should be there as well. A part of Net54 was the chat. Chats were not saved. Something could be posted on the board and replied to in chat, and thus be in the same forum. Yes, so nothing written by you was ever misconstrued by me.
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Nice to see how supportive your being of JB though, remembering something inaccurately and all in his defense. |
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I remember nothing about this situation "inaccurately".
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Who'd have thought a mod would be prepared to leap to his defense clearly remembering that he clearly wrote something that he can't recall but being unable to remember it seems anything about it. |
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Who would have thought that I'd be talking with the only person in the world that can clearly remember exactly everything he has ever read anywhere at any time and is able to recite exactly when and where he read it? Amazing!
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Malachy Crotty Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 18 October 2005 Posts: 37
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 10:09am | IP Logged | 8
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Chatt Reed wrote:
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I misconstrue nothing. You say that what John initially wrote was
on Net54 and so the apology should be there as well. A part of Net54
was the chat. Chats were not saved. Something could be posted on the
board and replied to in chat, and thus be in the same forum. Yes, so
nothing written by you was ever misconstrued by me. |
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I specifically referred to posts on the messageboard when pointing out to
JB where he first made the accusation.
I specifically responded to your post regarding "posts" Matt, even quoting
it to ensure even an idiot couldn't misconstrue what I was referring to.
I never once referred to chats in my posts with you.
I just said that JB made the accusations in a POST.
And yet your at pains to point out that what I'm saying isn't true becuase
there's no archive of chats?!?!?
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"You say that what John initially wrote was on Net54 and so the
apology should be there as well. A part of Net54 was the chat." |
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No I repeatedly specifically said he posted it. I never referred to it
being part of chat.
I clearly and specifically pointed out which section it was, that'd be the
section which wasn't chat (chat being the section you leeched onto to
argue my post).
So either you did deliberately misconstrue what I wrote or accidentally
misconstrued what even an idiot couldn't.
Though it's cute that you're amazed by folks whose mental faculties
exceed your own.
Mal
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Edited by Malachy Crotty on 17 February 2008 at 10:10am
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John Byrne
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 10:12am | IP Logged | 9
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I repeatedly specifically said he posted it. I never referred to it
being part of chat.
••
But I did. Perhaps someone should do a search for the original offending
remark. Let's find out where that lay.
Oh -- and if you can't find it, does that mean I can deny I ever wrote it?
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Mike Murray Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 September 2004 Location: United States Posts: 530
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 10:19am | IP Logged | 10
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Who is "Malachy Crotty" and why is he cross-examining JB as though we're in court?
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Matt Reed Byrne Robotics Security
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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 10:22am | IP Logged | 11
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Malachy, you're the type that has taken great pains to be absolutely obnoxious in the few posts we've exchanged in this thread. It took you all of one post to condescend and two posts to call me names. You're also the kind of person that wants to frame the debate in the only way he can win. Nothing but. Chat doesn't count because, well, you say it doesn't. Exactly the kind of person that is a waste of time and energy.
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Al Cook Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 17 February 2008 at 10:31am | IP Logged | 12
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"No I repeatedly specifically said he posted it."
Then go and find it. Put up or shut up, as they say...
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