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Anthony J Lombardi
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Correct me if i'm wrong...
Most of what has been wrong with Spider-man. That has happened in the last number of years, under the current powers that be. Now it's those same powers that be who want to take things back to how they were before they began messing with Spider-Man.
The same PTB are going to be continueing to guide the reigns. How are things gonna end up differently this time? The current group in charge have shown time and again that they don't learn from their mistakes.
Nothing is gonna change at Marvel until Joe Q is no longer E-N-C
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Howard Mackie
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<<Correct me if i'm wrong...
Most of what has been wrong with Spider-man. That has happened in the last number of years, under the current powers that be. Now it's those same powers that be who want to take things back to how they were before they began messing with Spider-Man.
The same PTB are going to be continueing to guide the reigns. How are things gonna end up differently this time? The current group in charge have shown time and again that they don't learn from their mistakes.>>
Funny... they don't get to blame the previous editorial regime, or the writers, or even the dreaded CLONE SAGA!
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Mike Sawin
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Allen Moyer:
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Since these "stories" are based on a premise we all agree is WRONG --
Spider-Man would NEVER make a "deal" with the devil -- by definition
these stories CAN'T be "very good." They begin and end at "wrong." |
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As far as I am concerned, this is not as damaging to the character of Peter Parker as the story that had him make a deal with Venom. For me, that was the beginning of the end of collecting comics. Another nail in the coffin was Scott Summers leaving his wife and child for his back-from-the-dead girlfriend.
Edited by Mike Sawin on 25 January 2008 at 2:42pm
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Jason Schulman
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He can show Parker reading one of the "Sins Past" issues and laughing.
It would damned hard not to approve of that! Hell, I bet even JMS would approve!
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Aaron Smith
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Since these "stories" are based on a premise we all agree is WRONG -- Spider-Man would NEVER make a "deal" with the devil -- by definition these stories CAN'T be "very good." They begin and end at "wrong."
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I'm looking at this the same way I look at any series when a new writer takes over and a new storyline begins. I hated what JMS was doing with Spider-Man. So far, I'm enjoying what Dan Slott is writing. I didn't necessarily enjoy all the Fantastic Four periods of the 70s and early 80s, but that didn't stop me from enjoying JB's run. The last storyline sucked. This one is much better, in my opinion.
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Mike Norris
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here's a question spinning out of Slott's storyline. The Maggia. They were a stand in for the Mafia, but know they are just a organized crime family named Maggia?
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***Ron Wray
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I would like to say I really enjoyed the last 3-4 Spider-man issues. I do agree that the entire world saw him unmask and couldn't remember who it was is very dumb.
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James Henry
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While I feel the path that Marvel took to get to Brand New Day was convoluted, silly and unnecessary on many levels, I am pleased with the end result. Peter Parker/Spider-Man as a character is actually being written consistent with the thematic elements that defined him for his first ~30 years and endeared him to millions of fans. He has money trouble. He has girl trouble. He's worried about his secret identity. He's worried about his Aunt May. He's misunderstood by the public. He's perceived as a criminal by the police. He's a character that people can both empathize with and admire because he rises above it all to be a great hero. That's the Spider-Man that I enjoyed reading when I was a kid! I've really enjoyed the last three issues and will continue buying the series.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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here's a question spinning out of Slott's storyline. The Maggia. They were a stand in for the Mafia, but know they are just a organized crime family named Maggia?
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No. There're still a stand-in for the Mafia. There're two families named in Slott's story.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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To newcommers: you can find some scans that will give you an idea of what Brand New Day looks like p.50, 53 & 59 of this thread.
On page 59 you can see members of two maggia families. They are under attack & Spidey is here to save them. Of course things don't go as planned by our hero.
I think Dan Slott did a great job on the story. Of course that's not inovative, and you could have read this story in the early 80s, but thats precisely what i like. He introduce an interesting super-villain too: Mr Negative (see him on the scan p.50). There's definitely an old school feel in Brand New Day. And as already noted, the art is very good.
And for the lack of movement? that may be true, but frankly that's what i heard about Sal Buscema since my childhood, and i always loved his art. Sal is one of my top favorite Spider-Man artists. So if Mc Niven have the same flaw, as far as i'm concerned, thats no big deal.
Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 26 January 2008 at 8:50am
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Todd Douglas
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Really?
In the early 80's, the circumstances of his life were the direct result of a deal with Mephisto?
I must've missed that issue.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Todd. OMD is to be ignored if you want to enjoy BND.
The Mephisto crap belongs to OMD.
BND can be read as if we only got the illusion of change since 1985.
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