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Jason Schulman
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Everything so far has been working for me, including McNiven's artwork. No real complaints from this corner. (I'm just glad I didn't waste money on all the crap stories prior to BND!)
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Paulo Pereira
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These guys need to spend a weekend looking at nothing but Neal Adams. He was a master of photorealism, but he also knew how to make the
characters move. He drew not what it would look like, but
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Also, a few speed lines, though not strictly necessary, never hurt anything.
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Jeff Moore
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Did not like OMD (except for the art) but Brand New day is off to an AMAZING start!
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Glenn Greenberg
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<<<The ultimate goal was for Ben Reilly to take back the
Peter Parker identity and we'd have a single, struggling-to-make-ends-
meet Spider-Man again
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With blond hair! I sort of dug the costume, but the blond hair was
awful!>>>
The blond hair would have turned brown again once Ben adopted the
Peter Parker identity.
And NO ONE liked the blond hair idea, with the exception of one person
--and his opinion was the only one that counted at the time.
Edited by Glenn Greenberg on 24 January 2008 at 4:34pm
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Clone Saga: Here in France there's an omnibus of that.
It seems there will be 2 volumes. The first one is 912 pages long. ("big" may be more correct, but i think "long" fits perfectly the Clone Saga).
Cover to Vol 1:
Web of spider-man 117, Amazing Spider-man 394, Peter Parker : Spider-man 51, Spectacular Spider-Man 217, Web of spider-man 117 (partie 2), Amazing Spider-man 394 (partie 2), Peter Parker : Spider-man 51 (partie 2), Spectacular Spider-Man 217 (partie 2), Web of spider-man 118, Peter Parker : Spider-man 52, Web of spider-man 119, Peter Parker : Spider-man 53, Amazing Spider-man 397, Spectacular Spider-Man 220, Amazing Spider-man 398, Spectacular Spider-Man 221, Web of spider-man 122, Amazing Spider-man 399, Peter Parker : Spider-man 56, Spectacular Spider-Man 222, Web of spider-man 123, Amazing Spider-Man 400, Amazing Spider-Man 400 (partie 2), Amazing Spider-Man 400 (partie 3), Peter Parker : Spider-man 57, Spectacular Spider-Man 223, Peter Parker : Spider-man 57 (partie 2), Spectacular Spider-Man 223 (partie 2), Web of spider-man 124, Amazing Spider-man 401, Peter Parker : Spider-man 58, Spectacular Spider-Man 224, Web of spider-man 126, Amazing Spider-man 403, Peter Parker : Spider-man 60, Spectacular Spider-Man 226, Maximum Clonage Alpha 1, Web of spider-man 127, Amazing Spider-Man 404, Peter Parker : Spider-man 61, Spectacular Spider-Man 227, Maximum Clonage Omega.
And thats just the first volume.
And if you wonder, the french public is of the same opinion as the american public about the clone saga. But obviously there's an editor out there counting on the nostalgia of the 90's kids.
Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 24 January 2008 at 6:52pm
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Scott Madsen
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So, back to the Mephisto story for a moment...
Various places (including, recently, Peter Sanderson, upthread,) I have seen people remark on Mephisto never having displayed this level of reality-restructuring power before. Some fans, I think, have outright stated that Mephisto DOESN'T have that kind of power. Really?
(Now, I admit, this may be another case of me having read the Marvel Handbook before having read the stories-- which is often the case since the OHTMUDE is one of the first books I ever collected-- but...)
I always thought Mephisto was one of those guys with the power to "wave his hands and do anything." With a couple of exceptions-- no mind-reading and no compelling people against their will (so, you know, he has to get them to bargain with him....) In hindsight, I suspect this simply means that no writer ever chose to establish any upper limits to the range or scope of his abilities-- but, if so, does that really make his depiction in OMD particularly objectionable (in terms of his power level, anyway)?
We might say that establishing that Mephisto CAN alter reality on such a scale poses questions ("Well, why doesn't he just transform the world into a Hell on Earth?") and possible answers ("Maybe he likes Earth just the way it is, so people are more likely to be tempted for whatever reason...") and that may or may not be the stuff of some future story. But that's not what I'm hearing in these objections. It seems to me that some folks are simply objecting to Mephisto exceeding his previously-demonstrated power levels, and I'm not sure I see the problem with that.
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***Des Embrey
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Clone Saga: Here in France there's an omnibus of that.
Now there's an interesting point. Will the TPBs if the stories where Peter is married to MJ be pulled, or continue to be printed? Perhaps some Orwellian editing to remove any reference to being married.
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Steve Swanson
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Wait... okay... wait, they went through with this Mephisto stuff in order to fix Spidey and the weirdest thing they did with his past (Norman and Gwen's grown kids) is still around? Seriously? I assumed (yeah, I know that's a stupid thing to do) that one of the reasons they did it was to erase those kids.
But they didn't. They did all of these other things but they didn't do that? Okay. I'm really weirded out by this.
Not that the kids are a hard thing to fix, all you have to say is Norman took some DNA from Gwen's grave and had it combined with his to make the kids as a way to mess with Peter. He's done things like that before and boom its done.
And you never refer to them again.
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Dave Phelps
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Hey, if the Mephisto thing could bring the dead back to life, restore Spider-Man's powers to their original configuration and restore a burnt down house, no reason it couldn't have also wiped out the kids. As long as no one writes a story to contradict that impression, why not just assume that Sins Past was wiped out with OMD as well?
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Gregg Halecki
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Probably because if they don't spell it out directly in big black letters, some writer in the future will use them in a story and say "where does it exactly say that they don't exist anymore?"
In fact even if they DID spell it right out, or do so in the near future, someone could "overlook" that part if they wanted to.
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Greg Woronchak
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He was a master of photorealism, but he also knew how to make the
characters move.
He makes it look so easy, darn it <g>. His understanding of human movement and body language is simply amazing.
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Roger A Ott II
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Steve Swanson: Wait... okay... wait, they went through with this Mephisto stuff in
order to fix Spidey and the weirdest thing they did with his past
(Norman and Gwen's grown kids) is still around? Seriously? I assumed
(yeah, I know that's a stupid thing to do) that one of the reasons they
did it was to erase those kids.
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From an interview with JMS that I read a week or so back, he said in his version of the story (before editorial stepped in) the kids would have been undone. He didn't say whether this had been his plan all along or if it was something he planned to do because of fan backlash.
Regardless, that should have been one of the top priority stories to be negated no matter who wrote the final story.
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