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Jason Schulman Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 08 July 2004 Location: United States Posts: 2473
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 4:15pm | IP Logged | 1
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Maybe it's just pure nostalgia on my part -- I hadn't bought an issue of Amazing Spider-Man for around 20 years until two weeks ago -- but I'm enjoying "Brand New Day" so far. I'd forgotten just how much fun Spider-Man is when written properly. So, so far it's been like reconnecting with a friend I haven't seen in eons.
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Chad Carter Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 June 2005 Posts: 9584
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 4:56pm | IP Logged | 2
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Not to insult anyone, but even the page posted of BND has Parker sitting around moaning and crying about life...and everything about the art screams "I'm hip! Earrings on dudes and cutie-pie bangs and big nerdy glasses on a hot chick!" I can't stand this stuff.
Peter is the hard-luck hero, I understand that. But it's either hard luck or super-models according to the guys who run comics, and that I don't get. I feel like Peter was often pretty happy, despite whatever hardship befell him, outside of May getting sick or the Vulture whipping him raw. The status quo has swerved from "the humble guy" to "the loser". Peter wasn't a social incompetent or a psych case...he was just a kid, a little awestruck by the other heroes and not entirely sure of how good he was as a superhero.
But I never got the idea Peter considered himself a bad person, or an outcast. He simply WAS an outcast; he didn't cry about it. He accepted it as fact, and his acerbic sense of humor reflected that. He wasn't some weak-willed momma's boy and he wasn't two-fisted like Captain America, but he always dug the hell out of being Spider-Man. I don't know, I haven't read enough stuff in recent years to say, but Peter IS Spider-Man, not some schlub who wears a Spider-Man mask. There's a difference there, in my mind.
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Lee Gracie Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 02 September 2005 Location: Australia Posts: 106
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 5:16pm | IP Logged | 3
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Man! I hate Quesada what he has done to Spider-man. He has been talking about this for years. Quesada is a great artist. But as a Editor in Chief he is bad. He only see, what he want to see. Not the funs. And to me the not good business.
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Brian Mayer Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 14 June 2007 Posts: 216
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 5:52pm | IP Logged | 4
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It's all easy, if you want it to be! *****
Thank you, that was exactly my point too. They are comic books, none of it (even the Other and Civil War and whatever) needs to be difficult to explain unles someone wants to make it difficult.
Matthew, all that needs to be said is DC used to have multiple, parallel Earths. These Earths were blended into one with the original Crisis on Infinite Earths. Recently, the Earths were split apart in a mad attempt to create one perfect world. In stopping this madman, we were left with 52 seperate Earths, each one slighty varied from the next.
There. Its as easy as the Fantastic Four origin. Four people go up in space and come back with superhuman powers.
Edited by Brian Mayer on 20 January 2008 at 5:53pm
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 24 April 2006 Posts: 15539
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 6:25pm | IP Logged | 5
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QUOTE:
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Well said.
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Paulo Pereira Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 24 April 2006 Posts: 15539
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 6:27pm | IP Logged | 6
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QUOTE:
Not to insult anyone, but even the page posted of BND has Parker sitting around moaning and crying about life...and everything about the art screams "I'm hip! Earrings on dudes and cutie-pie bangs and big nerdy glasses on a hot chick!" I can't stand this stuff. |
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Glad I'm not the only one!
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Emery Calame Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 5773
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 6:34pm | IP Logged | 7
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A single earing seems almost retro now.
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Michael Roberts Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 20 April 2004 Location: United States Posts: 14923
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 7:01pm | IP Logged | 8
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What exactly is wrong with cutie-pie bangs and big nerdy glasses on a hot
chick?
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Chad Carter Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 16 June 2005 Posts: 9584
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 7:17pm | IP Logged | 9
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I don't know...too obviously manipulative? Too Hollywood "smart sexy"?
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Jason Fliegel Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 19 December 2005 Location: United States Posts: 639
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 7:31pm | IP Logged | 10
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I still recall a wee grin when I read Grell's connecting of Green Arrow to Warlord by blood. One of the great "Up Yours, Fanboy!" moments.
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I didn't know he had done that. I do remember a hilarious story from Grell's run on Green Arrow where the Warlord had showed up in Seattle and every low-life in town, seeing the beard, assumed he was Green Arrow and tried to take him out. Not surprisingly, Warlord was not happy -- the first thing he did when he tracked down the real Green Arrow was punch him in the nose!
Edit: I should have kept reading -- Matthew McCallum already referenced the same story!
Edited by Jason Fliegel on 20 January 2008 at 7:37pm
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Ted Mederson Byrne Robotics Member

Joined: 07 October 2007 Posts: 101
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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 7:40pm | IP Logged | 11
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"Well, first there was Earth 2, and then there was Earth 1 -- yeah, I know,
2 comes after 1, but go with me on this. And then there was Earth 3, and
then Earth Prime, and Earth S came next I think, and then Earth Fawcett
and... Well, anyway, there were a lot of Earths, all the same, but all
different, okay? And then there was this crisis -- no, not the Infinite
Crisis, that came later. Well, it WAS an infinite crisis, just not THE Infinite
Crisis. First came the Crisis on Infinite Earths. See, all the earths got
merged into one and all the old stories didn't happen. Well, they DID
happen but just different from the way they were published. Well, some
happened, and some didn't happen, it depends on... Hey, where you
going? I was just getting to the good part about Zero Hour!"
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"Parallel universes are converging and disrupting each other, and all of reality will be destroyed if it isn't stopped."
Oops...did I wreck your point? :)
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Brian Mayer Byrne Robotics Member

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Posted: 20 January 2008 at 7:42pm | IP Logged | 12
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Great way of getting it into one sentence! That certainly works, Ted.
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