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Wes Wescovich
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Glenn, I noticed the same thing. And not only is there a footnote, but it references a comic from ASM's double digit era. I've spotted the odd footnote over the last few years thrown in, but they usually reference the collections, not the original issues.
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delaney clark
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in "the mighty avengers" they have started using the thought balloons again. at first it seemed weird because it had been so long since i have seen them that it almost made no sense to me.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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See the other page i posted Delaney (it's p.50 of this thread.) There's thought clouds in AMS too. Its seems that Wacker (The Editor) & Slott (the Writer) do their best to make it feel like a classic comicbook.
Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 19 January 2008 at 5:23pm
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Wes Wescovich
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I quit reading Mighty Avengers BECAUSE of the thought balloons, Delaney. It seemed like every one of them was used to express that the characters were not speaking their minds, but lying and then thinking the truth. That, or thinking snarky thoughts about each other, instead of using them for inner monologue.
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Albert Matthews
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just establish that the
minister who did the vows way back when was in fact, the Chameleon, as
part of some nefarious scheme only now being revealed!
I do think that's rather brilliant! His most "insidious revenge" amounted to not forking over the $10 it takes to become a certified minister.
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Matt Reed
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Wes Wescovich wrote:
| I quit reading Mighty Avengers BECAUSE of the thought balloons, Delaney. It seemed like every one of them was used to express that the characters were not speaking their minds, but lying and then thinking the truth. That, or thinking snarky thoughts about each other, instead of using them for inner monologue. |
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That's the fault of the writer rather than the use of the balloons.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Yes Matt, well done thought clouds & footnotes are part of the comics fun to me.
Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 19 January 2008 at 5:39pm
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Michael Roberts
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It seemed like every one of them was used to express that the characters
were not speaking their minds, but lying and then thinking the truth. That,
or thinking snarky thoughts about each other, instead of using them for
inner monologue.
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Or expressing the character's horniness.
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John Byrne
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Nowadays, the Marvel Universe is a world filled with hundreds, if not
thousands of super-heroes, many of whom are gainfully employed as
super-heroes by the U.S. government. There are dozens of heroes in
Spider-Man's shoes now, which rather makes Peter Parker's problems
seem somewhat self-inflicted. Does he need advice on super-heroing?
Go talk to Nova, or the New Warriors, or the Runaways. Does he need
cash? Go sign up with the 50 states initiative. Is the Sinister Six back in
town? Go find five of your own super-powered friends, and give them a
solid thrashing.
••
Traditionally, professionals in the Biz -- writers, editors, artists -- have
understood that superhero comics are set in something very much like
the real world (otherwise there would be nothing for the readers to
connect with), but they are not the real world. Thus, for instance,
Iron Man or Captain America could go fight with the troops in Vietnam
but they could not end the war. Because that hadn't happened in
the real world, and as much as superhero comics might be a kind of
"what if?" scenario, that question did not extend to asking what it would
really be like if there were superheroes.
One of the most obvious manifestations of this was that each title existed
more or less in isolation. AMAZING SPIDER-MAN was effectively its own
world, as was UNCANNY X-MEN, as was FANTASTIC FOUR. Once in a rare
(and special) while, characters from one book would appear in another --
a guest appearance, almost never a crossover -- but even then the
ramifications would be almost nil.
The fans, on the other hand, would constantly speculate about what it
would really be like if Batman could call Superman to help him out of any
dire straits, or if Spider-Man had Dr. Strange's beeper number. Basically,
they wanted all the books to read as if they were installments of
JUSTICE LEAGUE or THE AVENGERS. And "logically" that's how it would
play. But these books are not about being "logical". Not in that way,
anyway. They are about telling exciting, involving stories about the
stars of the books, not about the whole "universe".
Unfortunately, the fans who used to ponder those points are, largely, the
people now creating the stories, and they have forgotten -- if they ever
knew -- Len Wein's superb maxim, that the first story you'd do as a fan
should be the last story you'd do as a pro.
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Wes Wescovich
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Matt, that's what I meant. Even if it did sound like I was blaming those pesky balloons!
Michael, I concur. And that's stuff I don't care to read about. I was on board with the book because of Cho's art, but his use of repeated shots and the previously mentioned thought balloons pushed me away.
As far as BND, I don't agree with the way they got there, but I'm digging the first two issues so far. There are a few details that bug me and I'm hoping that they don't multiply. His dialogue in the page above feels a bit clunky to me, but the spirit of the Spider-Man I grew up with is in there fighting to get out.
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Another way around the wedding would have been to establish that it never
actually took place...maybe it was a mirage, courtesy of The Mirage! Or an
illusion caused by the long-unheard-from Mindworm. More mischief from
Mysterio! Spidey's rogues gallery has several villains who could have pulled
the wood over everyone's eyes.
Years of planning to undo the marriage (which I approve of) and Mephisto
was the best Marvel could come up with? You don't even need to be the
House of Ideas -- just the House of Long Memory!
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Wes Wescovich
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Craig, it all comes full circle. Mindworm features prominatly in the current Spider-GIRL comic.
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