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Stéphane Garrelie
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A triangle with Jonah then?
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Jameson, the new Black Cat.
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Ted Mederson
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I'm not gay, but color me bonerized!
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John Byrne
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A triangle with Jonah then?
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That would explain that cover!
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Marc Baptiste
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I can understand Mephisto having the power to undo something the law of NY state joined together, however... unless Mephisto (the devil, small-d) can overturn what GOD has joined together... aren't Peter and Mary Jane still married?
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John Byrne
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That's an interesting wrinkle! However, the verse is "what God hath joined
together, let no man put asunder." And, whatever else he may be, Mephisto
is not a man!
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Tim O Neill
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Dave: "...I didn't read every single post or even every single thread when I was a mod either."
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Just a note - I wasn't a mod at the time of that thread.
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Ray Brady
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There's something about the page that Stephane posted that's been
bugging me, and I think I've figured out what it is. It's that "where's a life
coach when you need one" line.
It occurs to me that a major problem with Spider-Man as a character right
now is the fact that he lives in the Marvel Universe. Back in the day, Peter
Parker was one of a couple dozen super-heroes populating the planet,
most of whom were nothing like him. He could hardly go running off to
Thor or Iron Man or the Hulk for advice on how to balance his schoolwork
with his career and still have time for web-slinging. He had one
reasonably close friend in the super-hero community, but as a full-time,
universally beloved celebrity, Johnny Storm shared none of Peter Parker's
problems. Spider-Man really was on his own, with no one to turn to for
support, or even just to share his true identity with.
Nowadays, the Marvel Universe is a world filled with hundreds, if not
thousands of super-heroes, many of whom are gainfully employed as
super-heroes by the U.S. government. There are dozens of heroes in
Spider-Man's shoes now, which rather makes Peter Parker's problems
seem somewhat self-inflicted. Does he need advice on super-heroing?
Go talk to Nova, or the New Warriors, or the Runaways. Does he need
cash? Go sign up with the 50 states initiative. Is the Sinister Six back in
town? Go find five of your own super-powered friends, and give them a
solid thrashing.
One of the many problems with the Marvel Universe today is that super-
heroing has become a profession. Worse yet, it has become a
government-sponsored job, with a payroll the size of the Post Office's. It
simply doesn't ring true anymore that Spider-Man would whine about
needing a life coach, when there are now thousands of people he could
turn to for support.
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Eva Bright
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i thought omd was dreck but i'll confess the ending did make me sad. the
first bnd issue was enjoyable, if a bit eerie.
all in all i still prefer stern/frenz. :)
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Stéphane Garrelie
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From Amazing 547 (Brand New Day part.2):
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Glenn Greenberg
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Hey! Footnotes are back!
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Mark Haslett
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Stephane, thanks for posting these pages-- I am sorry to say I am far from impressed. They don't remind me at all of the Stern/Wolfman era because the storytelling is so d r a w n o u t. . .
And Spider-Man's reaction to that clay tablet ("Not this stupid thing again!") comes off a little scary to me-- it sounds more like a fan than Spider-Man (who has actually witnessed the power of this tablet, no?). It's not the worst kind of fannish self-referencing, but it's not a good sign of things to come as it appears so early in this re-boot.
If the first page were all in two panels with some Spider-Man thrown in (doesn't Spider-Man swing around to "clear his head" anymore?), and if this page spent more time on the fight and less on the blue-guy's exposition, it might seem like an old-fashioned Spider-Man story, though. I wonder if modern storytelling will ever re-compress?
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