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Al Cook
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Wallace: Right after clear storytelling became passe.
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Allen Moyer
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"Cartoon cat" is not the way I would describe you, Al. There are other, more accurate words that spring to mind.
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Since i scanned this one for the favorite pages thread, i'll upload it here too. That seems on topic and will allow us to have another exemple of the Brand New day art, to discuss it in context. Thats from the part one of Brand New Day, last week's Amazing Spider-Man 546:
This week 547 continues the goodness.
Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 19 January 2008 at 9:34am
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John Byrne
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Harry has a stud in his right ear?
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Emery Calame
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Emery, the art just didn't feel right for a Spider-Man book to me. (No knock on the artist intended.)
Okay. Fair enough. I was just wondering what set you off about it. It seemed kind of vanilla to me with a shade of "imitating John Romita" thrown in. The guy doing New Avengers recently has a style that would be awesome for a noir/crime book or even a gritty two fisted pulp comic. It screamed "Perfect for the Shadow". But for an Avengers book (really more of a haploid post nineties Avengers book but that's another kettle of fish) it was completely utterly wrong. It was rife with super dark shading, wobbly wirey inks that were somehow still angular... bleah.
Edited by Emery Calame on 19 January 2008 at 9:46am
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Harry has a stud in his right ear?
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It seems so. Do you think it is out of character? Harry often had this kind of habit. There was that "modern" guy side already in the Stan Lee/Gil Kane days.
That looks like something he could do today no? Of course we have to remember he is in is twenties. Uper class guy who wants to look modern/"hot"/cool. i think that it works for him.
Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 19 January 2008 at 10:10am
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Stéphane Garrelie
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Now there's also the fact that marvel insist a lot on the fact that the characters are young. "See i'm young." "Hey did you see me say i'm young two pages ago? because i am you know." "Well you know, i'm not married, i'm too young for that". "huh, i'm not sure, did i say that i was young? just to precise that it is the case".
This parody is barely exagered.
Edited by Stéphane Garrelie on 19 January 2008 at 9:52am
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Ben Schwartz
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JB said: The figure on the cover was, indeed, the Shaper of Worlds. Howard and I
were planning that story as a scaled down version of our contemplated-
and-discarded "fix". Then we decided to scale it down even more, and make
the villain Mysterio, who was already known for pulling the kinds of stunt
the story needed.
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Thanks JB--I've been wondering about that for a loooong time!
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Tim O Neill
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I wasn't around the forum for the latter part of 2006/beginning of 2007 and missed this, but I have a problem with anyone representing the forum like that. I remember thinking someone was going to mail the thread, which was a nice idea, but I had met Gregg A. and didn't like hearing we had a representative.
It bothers me becasue the great thing about the forum is that there is no unified voice. It's why i get annoyed when people say the forum falls in lockstep behind JB. The first thing that pops into my mind is "have they READ they last few weeks?? If this is falling in lockstep, then we are one shitty, argumentative army!"
I wasn't a mod then and, honestly, I must have skipped Frank's posts as I don't have a memory of who he is. Oh, those carefree salad days when I could skip posts!
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Gerry Turnbull
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Tim, Frank wasnt representing the forum.he took along emails from those of us who corresponded with Gregf,and but for geography would have been at the wake, and printed the condolences from the thread about him.
Greggs father then posted something along the lines of how much he appreciated what frank did.i was and stil lam greatfull to Frank for taking my thoughts with him.
Edited by Gerry Turnbull on 19 January 2008 at 10:43am
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Brian Talley
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One of my favorite guys is Joe Zhang.........
Trying to be the bigger man.......trying to be the bigger man.....trying to be the bigger man......trying to be the bigger man.......
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Tim O Neill
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Gerry, I got the news about this in January from forum members and I have no doubt that this person was appropriate and respectful did a good thing with wonderful, meaningful intentions. But it doesn't change the fact that I don't want anyone representing the forum like that. It's a big can or worms that I don't want opened. And now that I have some mod experience under my belt, I feel even more strongly about this than I did back then.
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