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Nicky DeVito
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:15am | IP Logged | 1  

And you are a knob polisher.

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Paul Greer
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:19am | IP Logged | 2  

That's it? That's the best you can give me? Knob polisher? Whatever. 
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Matthew McCallum
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:29am | IP Logged | 3  

Nicky,

If this is such an awful place, why do you lurk? Life is short. I would hope
there are better things for you to do than wallow in awfulness.
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Zaki Hasan
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:31am | IP Logged | 4  

Was he the same guy who always liked to argue the opposite point no matter how trivial the subject?

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Pretty sure you're thinking of someone else here, Paul.

Frank was a good egg.
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Jason Schulman
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:53am | IP Logged | 5  

Um...thread drift? Weren't we talking about Spider-Man? Wha'appen? 
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Paul Greer
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Zaki, I'm not saying he wasn't a nice guy to some. But I was on the receiving end of some of those arguments. I'm not thinking of someone else. I wasn't a mod then, I'm just offering that my recollections were not always as rose colored as others here about his posting. I was a little worked up a few posts back, so I was harsh. However, there are two sides to everything. Some people might think I'm a nice guy, but I've also been told I come across as an asshole by others. It's all in how two people mesh together. Some get along and some don't. It doesn't make one bad or the other good. It just means that it is probably best for those people to not interact with one another.

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Mark Haslett
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:59am | IP Logged | 7  

It was good to have Frank back for a while so I could have him on ignore again. 

It is so bizarre to watch people twist themselves up over what John Byrne posts here.  I had the reaction to Greg H's reference to his mother's death that, basically, it was a discussion killer.  I totally disagreed with the point and think that if his grief in fact makes him want to sell his soul to the devil REALLY, then that's a personal problem and not an argument.  But what is there to say except, "sorry for your loss" or "dude, posting that news in this thread is out-of-line"? 

I dig that JB treats this place as a comfortable extension of his actual personality and not a Public Relations machine. If this place were run the way the whining douches keep squealing for, I would stop coming. 

"The Emperor Has No Clothes!"  Oh Holy Crap!  Mama, get my gun!  Someone on the internet just opened my eyes!
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***Des Embrey
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Do you think we might be able to bring the thread back to the subject at hand - the reboot of the Spider-Man titles?

Having now read the first episode of the new direction, it just seems more of the same to me.  Yes theres been some fiddling around the edges but I see nothing in it that is going to bring in a new group of readers.  Nothing that will make the books appeal to anyone outside of the small group that already pick up these comics.  But I see nothing that will appeal to any potential new readership that might come from the movie versions.

So what has been achieved from all this?  Some fans are happy because the marriage they didnt like has now never happened.  Some fans are peeved because they thought the marriage was okay and should have stayed.  There's been some publicity that otherwise wouldn't have happened.  Some controversy and discussion. 

Will any of this translate into sales over more than a month or two of a small number of curious new readers?  I don't think so.  It's not a fresh new start.  Its not somewhere that new readers can come in from.  And frankly, there's too little story for the price of the book (okay, given comics in Australia cost way more than the cover price I may be overly picky on that one).  Ultimately though, there was nothing in the issue that engaged me and made me want to pick up the next issue.  Nor care about the characters. 

If you fail on delivering a self-contained story that engages the reader (old-school comics), and you fail on sucking the reader into an on-going soap opera (what most comics now are), what is there left but just some pretty pictures with nice photoshop colouring.  Why wouldn't a kid pick up a DVD and watch it instead?
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Matthew McCallum
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 1:11am | IP Logged | 9  

Des,

You're right. We need to re-boot this thread. Where's the Shaper of Worlds
when you need him!
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Zaki Hasan
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Mark -

I don't think Nicks was Frank, if that's what you mean.
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Gerry Turnbull
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 6:02am | IP Logged | 11  

i was very disapointed when Frank was banned.i miss his refreshing take on things.
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 6:03am | IP Logged | 12  

Was he the same guy who always liked to argue the opposite point no
matter how trivial the subject?

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Pretty sure you're thinking of someone else here, Paul.


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No, he's not. This is precisely the "cumulative effect" to which I referred.
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