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Zaki Hasan
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 11:02pm | IP Logged | 1  

He wasn't using it to make a point.  He said that his mother's death had at least made him understand one part of this story that he didn't before, a point he had been arguing against in this thread up to that point.

That makes a big difference in this particular narrative.

Would I have done that?  Probably not, but everyone has their own way of dealing with grief, and it's not my place to judge how he deals with his.


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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 11:04pm | IP Logged | 2  

It seemed contrived to me at the time.  Set my Spider sense off big time.  I could be wrong, but I don't know...
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James Peterson
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 11:06pm | IP Logged | 3  

That really doesn't bother you in the least?

Bothered me.
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 11:06pm | IP Logged | 4  

He wasn't using it to make a point. He said that his mother's death had
at least made him understand one part of this story that he didn't before,
a point he had been arguing against in this thread up to that point.

That makes a big difference in this particular narrative.

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That's hair-splitting and you know it. If the point being made is not the
point originally made, if the person making the point has had a change of
mind, then a point is still being made. If I say "I used to hold with B, but
now I hold with A, and here's why…" the point I am making is A. That I
started with B is of no importance in the "narrative".
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Zaki Hasan
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 11:12pm | IP Logged | 5  

Well, I don't think it's hair-splitting, I think it's an important distinction to make, but you're entitled to differ, which you do, so there we go.
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Nicky DeVito
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 11:39pm | IP Logged | 6  


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And thus He becomes the Anti-Byrne, immortalized for His One Good
Deed, while all the months of sniping, contrariness and
confrontationalism are conveniently forgotten.

Well, I was, in fact, not happy when I read about his little funereal
adventure. Someone who had copped the attitude he did on this Forum
had no business "representing" the Forum in any form. However, the
morning I hit the "last straw" it was four or five threads before I got to
the one about the funeral.

Bullshit.

Frank never "copped the attitude he did on this Forum " Hell, he supported you in all manner of things. He disagreed with a couple of things you did that were BLATANTLY HYPOCRITICAL and you refused to own up to it. He called you on your shit, and you ignored it like an abused pussy. He was never shy about expressing his opinion, and was by no means a rabble-rouser or troublemaker here. The only "representation" he offered at that service was to the members of the forum, the majority of whom would probably have liked to attend but could not, for practical reasons.

He was shocked when he could not log in here and post.

No Warnings, No "Hey, dude, your getting on my nerves, back down a bit". Just "Fuck you, you're banned!" (pretty much like you do most of the people here who get wished into the cornfield.)

I know Frank , I communicate with him on a daily basis. I knew him here as well, and you, John Byrne, "could not be MORE WRONG. You could TRY, but you would not be successful".

His banning cost you 2 Moderators here, who tried to reason with you, but you basically told them to "fuck off", that "this was YOUR forum, and you'd do as you pleased!". Even though one of them went to the trouble to set this whole fucking place up for you.

 So don't play the victim card John. Don't play the "They're out to get me game", or the "Sad Boys and Trolls like to fuck with brilliance because they are jealous" card. The fact is, you are a hypocrite. Plain and simple. You blast fellow creators for doing things you've built your career on. You berate your fans in a backhanded way, hoping they don't catch on to it, and you say things that contradict things you've said in the past.

You act like a little tin god here, and as long as you have folks here who will line up to get abused by you, and then suck your dick to get your approval, all the while not realizing you despise the very fact they exist, you'll keep on keeping on.

I've lurked here for a LONG time, and I see it, even though I was a fan of yours. Hell if the majority of the folks here would get off their knees, and pull their tongues out of your ass, they would see it too. But knobody wants to admit that "the Emperor Has No Clothes!"

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Mike Yeverino
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Posted: 18 January 2008 at 11:44pm | IP Logged | 7  


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Yet you take that very quote out of context.


No I didn't. And that particularly underscore my point. You seem to believe that 'context' is a magical word that somehow makes your comments and message boards look much better than they are. It's not. It actually makes them look worse. You can set up as an Internet Martyr™ all you want, but whenever a new Bad Byrne makes the rounds in the rest of the comic book forums, context is fully provided.


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Personally, I find it refreshing in this politically correct age that John has
the guts to be so outspoken and forthright. Yeah, he can be blunt and
acerbic, but you can tell he writes straight from the gut and calls things
as he sees them.


Good. That's exactly what I'm doing. I'm calling 'em as I see them. I'm not criticizing him for being 'outspoken', but because he doesn't own up the reactions his 'candor' provoke.



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Wilson Mui
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:03am | IP Logged | 8  

I hate to say this about Frank since he is not here to defend himself, but I did find it annoying that he was arguing with people every week.  I don't think he was mean-spirited, he just seemed to like to argue.
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Paul Greer
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:07am | IP Logged | 9  

Oh boo-hoo. "Frank was such a nice guy." Blah blah. Is this the same guy who constantly attacked one of the moderators because he didn't like the line of work he was in? Yes he was. Was he the same guy who always liked to argue the opposite point no matter how trivial the subject? Yes he was. It's been a year of hard feelings over a guy who wasn't the nicest person to engage in conversation with. Maybe he was a swell guy to some. But it wasn't just calling out JB, he liked to call lots of people out if you didn't fit Frank's level of sophistication. He once told me I was ignorant for enjoying Cheech and Chong films during a Saturday night chat. I don't miss the guy in the least and didn't shed a tear when he was given the boot.

Some of you hate John Byrne. He's an asshole, he's this or that. Who gives a fuck? In the vast universe known as the internet this is the place you'd like to hang out? A place that is run like Nazi Germany? A place where all we fans do is suck dick? What a horrible place. Yet you come here day after day. Why? To enlighten us misinformed ass kissers that we should hate this place. Get over yourselves. This forum, John Byrne and anyone who (gasp) enjoys this place are not worth your precious time. Please go hang out where it is less offensive.

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Michael Roberts
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:07am | IP Logged | 10  

You act like a little tin god here, and as long as you have folks here who
will line up to get abused by you, and then suck your dick to get your
approval, all the while not realizing you despise the very fact they exist,
you'll keep on keeping on.

I've lurked here for a LONG time, and I see it, even though I was a fan of
yours

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Your joined date indicates that you signed up for the forum long after the
situation with Frank happened. Doesn't that make you one of the people
"who will line up to get abused by [JB}"? If you find his attitude that
offensive, the best thing to do would be to ignore him and the forum and
make him irrelevant.
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Nicky DeVito
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:08am | IP Logged | 11  

Keep on sucking Paul.....Keep on sucking.
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Paul Greer
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Posted: 19 January 2008 at 12:12am | IP Logged | 12  

'Nicky", I could give two shits what you think. Mr. "I hate this place so much I'll join ten months after my bestest buddy was banned". You're a phoney.

 

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