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Gerry Turnbull
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Posted: 31 July 2007 at 11:04am | IP Logged | 1  

guys, im having problems accesing my bt emails through work, i know some of you have emailed me today.

ill be home at 10 pm and should be able to access them by then.

ill keep trying in the meantime.most frustrating especially today.

 
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Pat Ditton
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Posted: 31 July 2007 at 11:20am | IP Logged | 2  
JB --

How about NOT attending Cons to be a "victim" to the fans - and attending to speak and entertain/educate - like an industry professional?

I went to SDCC for the first time and sat in a couple panels with Marv Wolfman (on writing), J Michael Strazynski (on writing), etc -- I approached Marv as he was exiting the room and asked for an autograph on my hardcopy of "History of the DC Universe" and he happily signed - I approached JMS after his panel for an autograph on the tpd of Midnight Nation - he declined and said he was signing on Sunday - which he was for 1 hour.

You could come to a place like SDCC and sit with Neal Adams at his Continuity booth for a couple days just making a "list" of sketches to do and tell the buyer to come back buy at a certain day/time to pick-up --  tell autograph seekers that you're only signing on Sunday to keep lines down at the booth.  Then break up the day(s) by holding a couple panels on writing (or something educational) and THEN hold just a 1 or 2 hour signing table on Sunday - be walked IN by the convention people and walked OUT by the convention people -- let the red-shirts be the bad guys.  Take a day and see Sea World in the middle...

This seems like a more professional approach to a convention than just being a monkey sitting at a booth for 4 days - taking crap from fans.
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Eric White
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Posted: 31 July 2007 at 11:21am | IP Logged | 3  
Don't we already have access to John Byrne?
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Posted: 31 July 2007 at 11:25am | IP Logged | 4  
How about NOT attending Cons to be a "victim" to the fans - and attending to speak and entertain/educate - like an industry professional?

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How about realizing that all that is required to be an "industry professional" is to produce the assigned work on time and to the best of one's ablilities?

Attending onventions is not in the job description. Cons are pure gravy for the fans, and many -- including you, apparently -- seem to have forgotten this rather important detail.

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Pat Ditton
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Posted: 31 July 2007 at 11:30am | IP Logged | 5  
JB - I'm sorry -- that opening sentence sounds like a JAB at you -- what I meant by it was simply -- a professional like yourself should be able to come to cons to do "professional" things so that they are NOT a victim of fans on the convention floor.

sorry - I did not mean for it to come across as anything but that.

my bad.
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Don't we already have access to John Byrne?

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So much that some of my "fellow professionals"
delight in mocking me for it.

Playing the fanboy game, in other words.
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John Mietus
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Posted: 31 July 2007 at 11:35am | IP Logged | 7  
 John Byrne wrote:
The part that's "missing" from the above poster's
comment, is that nobody every got just the rubber stamp if they had only
reprints for me to sign. In those instances, I'd rubber stamp the books, then
retrieve from my portfolio one of the non-reprint books I had brought along
specifically for that purpose, sign it with my actual autograph, and give it to
the fan.


Y-you monster!
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Posted: 31 July 2007 at 11:38am | IP Logged | 8  
Well, I did used to make sure the fan got a
papercut as s/he took the book from my hand…
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Kevin Hagerman
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Posted: 31 July 2007 at 11:39am | IP Logged | 9  

Y-you monster!

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Look away, JM!  It may assume other forms!



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Ted Pugliese
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You back in the commission line Ted?

Not yet, Ari
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Horace Austin
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Posted: 31 July 2007 at 12:11pm | IP Logged | 11  

I haven't posted here in a while.  I figure this is a good time.

Gerry,

I'm someone who got on Michael Golden's sketch list at Super-Con in San Jose, California back on Saturday, June 2.  A month later, I received my Dr. Strange sketch in the mail.  It's a good sketch.

Since I'm on the comic art-I list, I was aware of the situation that you, Malcom Bourne, Michael Finn and others were in for the last few, if not several, months.  But, I didn't hear about this most recent controversy until I got back from San Diego on Sunday night and read my email.

I've also been reading the posts on the Comics Journal site.  Wow.

Yeah, I received a good Dr. Strange illustration from Michael Golden in a reasonable amount of time.  But, I'm not going to be neutral here.

You have every reason to be upset.  Period.

And, I think it's great that John Byrne offered to compensate you with art for your trouble.

Final word: as a collector, if you deal with reps like Jim Warden and Spencer Beck on a constant basis, you get spoiled fast.  These guys are so easy to deal with regardless of how large or small the $$$ amount involved is.  If all reps were like these guys, we wouldn't be talking about this stuff.
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Regarding the issue of if there are binding contracts or not,surely the fact that virtue is not spelt correctly,is grounds enough to reject the item as not of saleable quality?
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